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Sandwiches in a can
Everything from emergency rations to food on the go. Literally.
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i remember seeing the hamburger version of this, it was not well received.

I wouldn't buy one, I might try one on a dare though.
-Terry
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Ya, that's because the Germans made it. I've a few tin's of a French 'gourmet' ready to eat meal which isn't too bad straight from the can, but I find it much nicer after being nuked for a bit. The low cost airlines down here offer them as part of their in-flight meal selection. Yet, if I'm out & about on a job and I've access to a microwave I tend to use one of the other shelf-stable meals I've found. One of them's a cousin to Spam!

--Rod.H
Hmm... I was skeptical of the technique. And of the business. I'm more convinced the technique will work after reading the article and seeing what they actually plan. It's NOT a whole sandwich pre-made stuffed into a can. It's the ELEMENTS of a sandwich stored in a can. The bread, the peanut butter and jelly, (or the meat and cheese) all stay in their separate packages within the can. You pop the can, take the stuff out and build your sandwich. That doesn't sound too bad actually. Sounds like an extension of Kraft's "Lunchables" packaging. 

I'm still skeptical of the ability to sell the concept though. I mean, you say/think "sandwich in a can" and the immediate reaction isn't positive. I don't know how you'd change that. But then I'm not a marketing executive. 

But technically I'm sure it could be made to work.
from what I've read in this article it sounds like the man has a plan even for that.

"Mom, I'm hungry! I need food now!"

"Ther'es a SanCan rolling around your feet, Bobby."

"MMM!!!! PB n J! THANKS MOM"

The biggest hurdle will be people who think of the crud in a can that are old K rats. Some say MRE's arnt much better, but when I consider what KRATS used to be like... Also makes me glad I was in the Nav. Carried our mess hall with us, none of this MRE carp.
Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky?
That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry-

NO QUARTER!!!
-- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children
This reminds me of a great story/rant my college buddy Bruce Lewis once told me about his time in the Navy. Maybe you can corroborate this or show how times might've changed? 

Story goes something like this: 

Bruce was on the carrier Enterprise back in 86-88 or so. They'd go on these long cruises and the food would be fine - even great! - for awhile at first. But about a couple of weeks or so before the supply ships were scheduled to rendezvous with the group, the supplies would get a little low. They'd cut back some on the fresh meat like chicken and all in the galleys and a lot of substitution would be going on. Mostly involving creative ways of serving spam. ("We got eggs, bacon and spam! Spam eggs and spam! Spam sausage and spam!" you get the idea... ) 

Bruce said that the Navy, naturally being a government institution, buys stuff in bulk. On the cheap. Lowest common denominator. This definitely applied with the spam. Of which there was a lot. 

One of the ways in which spam can made even cheaper to buy is to get it without the food coloring. 

Oh yes. You think spam is naturally pink? Think again. Without the red dye, spam is grey. Very very grey.

And Bruce ate a lot of grey spam at sea.

Which winds us up to the rant, which channels a bit of Sam Kinneson - 

"Bad enough... I'm on a grey ship, on a grey ocean, under a grey sky, walking down grey corridors, wearing grey coveralls, sleeping on grey sheets and pillowcases... 

"BUT THE FOOD IS GREY!!! AHHHHHH!!!!"

It may be just the way he delivered it, but that always used to crack me up. ^_^
Mostly accurate, except for the spam part. At least on my ship anyway I dont think I ever saw anything that you could point to and say SPAAAAAAAM

But after about 2 weeks to a month you started running out of Fresh Fruit n Veggies and milk and started to get more 3bean salads and the like. Powdered eggs were ok, you couldnt really taste a difference like you do with powdered milk.
Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky?
That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry-

NO QUARTER!!!
-- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children

Kurisu

Thanks for the flashback...

Sliders on a Knox Class ship in Sea State 4. I feel the gut pains coming back...
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I can go worse. People still talk about seeing boxes that state that the contents are for one of two things: prisoners and/or animals.

Your buddy is probably talking about the prison-grade spam.

And what he said about how the quality dwindles... that's no joke either. In the days leading up to a CONREP (connected replenishment) or a VERTREP (vertical replenishment) the food quality will drop dramatically simply because they are getting rid of the stuff that's the worse off, that way they have more room on the reefer decks for the fresh stuff.
Actally, Sam in Kinnison's time was grey because they didn't add sodium nitrate, not dye. Sodium nitrate helped it keep its colour, but reduces shelf life.
jpub Wrote:Actally, Sam in Kinnison's time was grey because they didn't add sodium nitrate, not dye. Sodium nitrate helped it keep its colour, but reduces shelf life.
Wow...
Now I said the rant was channeling a Sam Kinnison style (quiet throughout, then explosive at the end).
But I don't know how your mental processes worked to get from there to what you just posted. That's a truly amazing non-linear thought process going on, plus a (purposeful?) epic mis-spelling/replacement? Sam for Spam? Referencing the spam color as different back when Sam Kinnison was alive?
I mean - I get what you're saying - I think. But the process hurt my brain by trying to follow the non-euclidean geometry there.. ow ow ow...
Quote:I can go worse. People still talk about seeing boxes that state that
the contents are for one of two things: prisoners and/or animals.

Your buddy is probably talking about the prison-grade spam.
O_o;;
Ew...
Quote:And what he said about how the quality dwindles... that's no joke
either. In the days leading up to a CONREP (connected replenishment) or
a VERTREP (vertical replenishment) the food quality will drop
dramatically simply because they are getting rid of the stuff that's the
worse off, that way they have more room on the reefer decks for the
fresh stuff.
CONREP being ships tethered side to side so as to "conveyer" supplies over, and VERTREP being Helicopter trips back and forth?

Kurisu

You are correct, sir... yes.

CONREPs were not fun due to entire operation was man-powered.

"Johnson got hit with the Monkey's fist, sir."

"Ten points to the supply ship. Make a note."
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Heh. (and a bit of ouch)
Logan Darklighter Wrote:
jpub Wrote:Actally, Sam in Kinnison's time was grey because they didn't add sodium nitrate, not dye. Sodium nitrate helped it keep its colour, but reduces shelf life.
Wow...
Now I said the rant was channeling a Sam Kinnison style (quiet throughout, then explosive at the end).
But I don't know how your mental processes worked to get from there to what you just posted. That's a truly amazing non-linear thought process going on, plus a (purposeful?) epic mis-spelling/replacement? Sam for Spam? Referencing the spam color as different back when Sam Kinnison was alive?
I mean - I get what you're saying - I think. But the process hurt my brain by trying to follow the non-euclidean geometry there.. ow ow ow...

Yeah, so I forgot a P in spam.
Quote:Yeah, so I forgot a P in spam.
"I do not like it, Spam I Am..."
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Kurisu Wrote:You are correct, sir... yes.

CONREPs were not fun due to entire operation was man-powered.

"Johnson got hit with the Monkey's fist, sir."

"Ten points to the supply ship. Make a note."
CONREPs these days are not man-powered... at least for the conveyor bit.  Hauling in the span-wire (high-tension load bearing wire-rope that connects the ships) is still done by hand.
However, us GMs still have fun seeing who on the UNREP ship is dumb enough to hang out in the open once we're cleared to fire our shot-lines.  (^_^)

Kurisu

I think it had to do with the size of the ship...

...and now that I think about it, it was about 18 years since I was in the service. Shi... Um, Stuff may have changed.
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Well as an 8404 (Medical type who ran around with Marines) I can say the MRE's are better, period.
I never had an MRE that I couldn't eat the main meal.  There was 1 of the old rats that I couldn't eat hot or cold period.  And another that I couldn't eat cold ... and most of the time we were not allowed to heat them up due to fire conditions.
BLHarrison Wrote:Well as an 8404 (Medical type who ran around with Marines) I can say the MRE's are better, period.
I never had an MRE that I couldn't eat the main meal.  There was 1 of the old rats that I couldn't eat hot or cold period.  And another that I couldn't eat cold ... and most of the time we were not allowed to heat them up due to fire conditions.
Yeah, the modern MREs are plain awesome, period.  They are something that you definitely want for a 72-Hour Emergency Kit.
In case you're not in the know, modern MREs come in a variety from Vegetarian (!) to Spaghetti and Meatballs to Beef Steak.  And they are all very much edible.  They come with the main course, a couple of side items (something like corn or mashed potatoes), dessert (usually a candy bar), eating utensils, napkins, and even a drink mix to toss into your canteen.
Best part?  The chemical heater.  The MREs come with a kit where you plunk the food pouches (don't open them before hand!) into a separate pouch with pre-packaged chemicals.  Fill all that to the dashed line with water and let it sit.  Before you know it, it starts to boil away, and in five minutes you got yourself a hot meal without a fire.
I remember back in my Boy Scouts days that on a camporee, my Troop had British Surplus MREs while the neighboring Troop had American... the attempts at trading were hilarious.
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
Hmm... the worst food.

That's got to be the staff fodder at Eirtakon. Of course, everyone loves chocolate bars, cheap industrial cakes, marshmallows and coke. Sounds like a sweet-tooth's joy. But...well, there's too much of a good thing. What if that's all you eat for the weekend? It tends to make people a little sick and unhappy.... because you can't eat enough to actually be filled, and you get all weird from the sugar rush. Coupled with a night's drinking on the Friday making some people nauseous at 8am Saturday morning....

Some enterprising staffer last year brought a fry in on the bus... and I developed a tradition of homemade sandwhiches... most of them tend to be snaffled up pretty quickly.

Canned sandwhiches would go down well, providing we could keep them cold. MRE's would be golden, because we could carry 'em around and eat them.
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Hmm. Depends on the food. When I worked food service at a hospital cafeteria (yes, I know the jokes, on the other hand we scored in the top 5% on a Gallop poll, and they lumped hospitals in with hotels and resorts) one of the perks was having most of your meal comped and nearly unlimited free soda.
I'm a mashed potato and gravy junkie. Having it nearly every dinner for two years didn't break me of that. On the other hand I'd already burned out of overloading soda. About eight two liters of Dr. Pepper and Mountain Dew, on my own, over the course of one weekend. Destroyed my sleep cycle for a few days and for about two weeks I felt ill at just the thought of a caffeinated drink.
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blackaeronaut Wrote:Yeah, the modern MREs are plain awesome, period.  They are something that you definitely want for a 72-Hour Emergency Kit.
In case you're not in the know, modern MREs come in a variety from Vegetarian (!) to Spaghetti and Meatballs to Beef Steak.  And they are all very much edible.  They come with the main course, a couple of side items (something like corn or mashed potatoes), dessert (usually a candy bar), eating utensils, napkins, and even a drink mix to toss into your canteen.
Well I was aware. Ain't they adding new stuff like sandviches to the mix. Yet it doesn't explain the stories I've read of US troops trying to trade their MREs for Australian ration packs, must be the M&Ms and Tim Tams. Oh don't forget the Tabasco.
blackaeronaut Wrote:Best part?  The chemical heater.  The MREs come with a kit where you plunk the food pouches (don't open them before hand!) into a separate pouch with pre-packaged chemicals.  Fill all that to the dashed line with water and let it sit.  Before you know it, it starts to boil away, and in five minutes you got yourself a hot meal without a fire.
They must have improved that for I read that in the '91 Gulf War the troops hated the MRE chem heater and those with access to vehicles, set up cook boxes in the engine bays. Some even supposedly shoved MRE pouches down idling truck exhausts to warm 'em up.

--Rod.H
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