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alright silverfang, slow your "orange man bad" roll right there.
First, several people came back before THE DAMN CHINESE ADMITTED A DAMN THING where this virus is concerned.
second, when we did find out about it, ANY ONE COMING IN FROM INFECTED ZONES WAS QUARANTINED for the the suggested two or more weeks, even to their own complaints.
third, The quarantined people have been isolated to military bases and when showing signs of being sick, isolated even more.
Now, maybe you should find some better, (or at lest not adblocked) sites to reference because i can't read a single one of those sites without having to pay or disable my adblocker which i WONT do, but i see, Sacramento Bee, Washington Post, 2 from Vox and one from the Huffington Post. the only one there that i can't verify hates the current administration is the Sacramento Bee, and thats because i assume it's a local paper, the rest however are pretty much the top of the Hate Trump Media along with MSNBCNN
Oh man, you guys are in for a bad time...
Meanwhile, down here, in what is likely an attempt to fix his image after the bushfire crisis but I'll take it, our PM has activated emergency plans for a possible pandemic, along with emergency funding for organisations like the CSIRO to focus their efforts on it. So far, it appears Australias quarantine efforts are working, but a number of experts have said it's unlikely to last, given what's being discovered about how the disease works.
I don't know why you all are worried about the virus. President Trump already said the markets will recover.
And of course, the stock market lost like 1200 Dows today, the most Dows ever lost in a single day. The last three days have evaporated the gains of the last eighteen months. Meanwhile, as a proud investor in cash, I'm doing just fine. Cash: it's everything money can buy!
The Sac Bee is owned by McClatchy, which is in the bankruptcy process, and will probably be owned by the National Enquirer soon enough.
Meanwhile, I'm stocking up on food and essentials, so I can avoid going outside in the long quarantine season ahead. Working at home has its advantages. Best case scenario, I'm finally prepared for an earthquake. I probably need to get some of that cash in paper form for the worst case scenario. It's almost too late to buy masks already, but I have a few of the good ones saved from painting jobs. And just refilled all my prescription medications -- do that now if you can, you want to avoid places where the ill gather.
So prepper up everyone! We can't trust this government to handle a real crisis, so we need to rely on ourselves.
(02-28-2020, 12:00 AM)Labster Wrote: [ -> ]It's almost too late to buy masks already, ...
Too many people are buying masks that they don't need - which means the hospitals, who
do need them, can't get them because of lack of stock.
If you're going to self-quarantine, then you don't need masks at all. You won't be getting close enough to somebody to spread any bugs anyway.
Spend the money on something useful, such as an extra gallon of water or a couple of cans of food you can eat without cooking it.
The public expect the healthcare system to utterly implode the moment it starts biting here.
It's basically imploding now.
So yeah.
Well, those liberal types keep complaining about overpopulation and so on, don't they? A quick plague is a great way to cut things back as long as no one important dies. Why, if they can't afford a mere few hundred or thousand dollars for a magic needle prick, better off without 'em. Great for unemployment, and a great justification not to shake the proles' hands or kiss babies while campaigning too! /sarcasm
And now he's claiming it's a political hoax, exaggerated to make him look bad. Unfortunately, it won't just be his cultist followers that get killed from listening to him.
The Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota looks like a good resource for information. The site has a section about COVID-19 with original content and aggregates additional useful information from authoritative sources. The site has information for a wide audience like the general public, businesses, and researchers
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19
We may have passed the tipping point in the COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak
Quote:"I think for Canada, the place we're really connected to is the United States," [Dr. David Fisman, Professor of Epidemiology, University of Toronto] said. While he has great respect for his public health colleagues in the U.S., "Some of the politics there really looks ... from this side of the border, like it might be interfering with their outbreak response."
He also points to technical problems the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has had with testing kits, that may have hampered their ability to test as thoroughly as we're doing in Canada, which, he said, "To my mind suggests they're probably missing a lot more cases than we are."
Also, video.
Washington state declares a state of emergency after one COVID-19 death
If you need to declare a state of emergency because a single person dies, your emergency response plans need a serious overhaul. (I know that declaring a SoE gets federal funds. That's a bug, not a feature - funds need to be available without needing to flip the switch that lets the government call out the Army.)
My office is at one end of a corridor and shares a lift with a local clinic. A local secondary school ten minutes walk from the office has been closed due to some kid getting it. There're people walking past in masks.
Yeah. I'm going to get this.
Hail Nurgle.
Well, I’ll miss you. At least you won’t have to live through Trump’s second term. Always look on the bright side of life. *whistle*
First fatality down here, along with confirmed cases of local human to human transmission. Fun times ahead.
Meanwhile, in the Netherlands; 18 confirmed cases and the approach of the Dutch health care system is 'we got this'. No boasting, no moaning, no panic. Just 'we got this', and 'while we're at it, could you make our lives easier by doing these sensible things?'
I'd link the RIVM's (roughly translated; National Institute for Public Health and Wellbeing) page on COVID-19, but it's entirely in Dutch.
The Australian government is trying for that, but the mess they made of the bushfire crisis is hampering the efforts, along with their attempts to defund large parts of the medical sector over the past few years.
(02-29-2020, 10:04 PM)robkelk Wrote: [ -> ]Washington state declares a state of emergency after one COVID-19 death
If you need to declare a state of emergency because a single person dies, your emergency response plans need a serious overhaul. (I know that declaring a SoE gets federal funds. That's a bug, not a feature - funds need to be available without needing to flip the switch that lets the government call out the Army.)
We're at six now here in WA, first one was about twenty miles from my house
Edit: Now at 9!
Actually, the markets dropped after the rate cut was announced.
I don't know what that was supposed to accomplish, actually. It made sense in 2008 - dropping the interest rate got people making big-ticket purchases again. This time around, no amount of cheaper (or free) money is going to get somebody to sit in an aircraft beside someone who might be contagious.
We went from 1 over the weekend to 13.
Which proves what I've been thinking. It's been scuttering around unnoticed for the last couple of weeks and was only found in the community when someone turned into hospital for unrelated reasons and didn't respond to treatment.
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