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Okay. I think I understand enough about computers to know my current machine is *spit* HP "blackboxed." Model s5310y. [I asked a tech at BestBuy and he seemed to think that HP dicked around with the Power Supply making it difficult to use an aftermarket one for my (already known difficulty for getting a new vidcard) slimline case. Unless I was misunderstanding him and he was stating that HP has asked Best Buy to not do the power supply mods for people.]
I'm contemplating getting the parts to assemble a modest system on my own, hoping to spend... not terribly much. See If I can do better than what I got for $500 - 600 or so.
What is my "You're a ****ing idiot if you don't have THIS" list?
In before "make it a Linux system/buy an Apple" a-haha, no.
Unlike last year, I may actually follow through on advice. Wink
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll

Reynold Hughes

I'd be glad to help out, Fox. As for the HP thing? Really big retail chains in the US are no longer allowed to do work on HP computers legally. It's not a big deal for small shops unless an HP person stops by to serve legal action.
I've been looking up parts for my computer as of late. I'll post when I put a list together for you.
PCPer usually has a good starting point:

http://www.pcper.com/hwlb...guide4=y&guide3=y#guide4

They keep it up to date as new things come out, which is always nice.

If you are looking to game with the box, I would take the extra $100 headroom your price window offers and get the GTX 460 instead of the SAPPHIRE 100287L
-Terry
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"so listen up boy, or pornography starring your mother will be the second worst thing to happen to you today"
TF2: Spy
*nodnod* Looks good. But now I'm torn by Case craziness. Wink
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
http://www.tomshardware.c...k-athlon-ii-x3,2811.html

http://www.tomshardware.c...a-pc-overclock,2739.html

I would make 100% certain that I got away from ATI graphics and went with an Nvidia-based card, if I was you. Aside from that, a $600 or $500 pc is eminently possible.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies
Had planned on staying with Nvidia chips. *great site. working up the gumption to place the orders, and seeing if I find anything nice to pad here and there.

Black cases are BLEH. Wink
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
brushed aluminium, no window, no illumination other than power/hdd for me, thanks.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies
Order placed. Parts should arrive by Wednesday.

Trying to decide on a name between "Chiyuki no Youko" and Elsa (for Lanchester, Bride of Frankenstein.)

Most of my comps have been named for Nogi in one way or another since I rolled her, unless it was a shared box with attendant Daggro.
I mostly followed the Tom's guide, but went a little light on the vid card, since the beefier PSU and legally purchased (instead of using the recovery disk from my current system) OS  plumped the expenses a little. Fortunately, when I go back later, I can put the card in my Dad's comp.
For the curious:
1 x CPU AMD|ATH II X4 645 3.1G AM3 RT



1 x MEM 4Gx2|MUSHKIN 996770 DDR3 1333



1 x CASE CM|RC-912-KKN1 RT



1 x  PSU CM|RS500-PCARA3-US 500W RT



1 x  MB ASROCK M3A770DE 770+SB710 RT



1 xVGA ASUS|ENGT440/DI/1GD5 GT440 R



1 x  HD 1T|SAMSUNG HD103SI 32M 5K % - OEM



1 x  DVD BURNER LITE-ON | IHAS124-04 % - OEM



1 x  WIN HOME PREM 7 64-BIT ENG 1PK DSP-OEM



1 x CPU COOL ROSEWILL| RCX-ZAIO-92 R
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
Ah, the joys of Blind Idiot Fraud-checking.

Order Scrapped, gonna retry Monday.
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
you can eliminate the extra CPU cooler, the stock unit that comes with the AMD chip should be sufficient, unless you're planning on overclocking.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies
Well, since I really don't know thing one about overclocking... It's just the Processor is sold as already having its cores unlocked... does that make a difference?
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
not really.

It's kinda like.. oh hell.

I don't have a metaphor for the scenario. But if you don't know what it is in detail and plan on specifically doing it, you don't need to worry about it.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies
Right. Thanks.
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
Parts arrived today, assembled, and am currently patching from Architect edition hardcopy.
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll