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RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Bob Schroeck - 03-14-2024
Yeah, was coming back to report the same.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Labster - 03-15-2024
Sorry, that error was somewhat my fault. I checked a box to enable an extension, nothing happened. Then I got sysadmins to actually install the extension, and then things crashed. The UnlinkedWikibase extension wanted Mediawiki 1.42… which has not been released. We switched to the 1.41 branch, which doesn’t appear completely functional, but also doesn’t crash.
You told me not to test on ATT and that worked out for the best.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 03-15-2024
I suspected that it might have been a database-related issue, I saw that you had enabled a database-related extension, and I distinctly remember telling you to test on our wiki, so no worries there. (And that's why I didn't file a ticket immediately, too -- I wanted to give you a chance to weigh in.)
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Norgarth - 03-15-2024
(03-14-2024, 12:56 PM)robkelk Wrote: And another one. I think I got everybody in this one, not including shapeshifters.
I assume Luna and Artemis the Mooncats are classified as shapeshifters?
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 03-15-2024
(03-15-2024, 10:26 AM)Norgarth Wrote:(03-14-2024, 12:56 PM)robkelk Wrote: And another one. I think I got everybody in this one, not including shapeshifters.
I assume Luna and Artemis the Mooncats are classified as shapeshifters?
Yeah, considering what I just wrote yesterday in their welcome-to-Refuge story.
Quote:"There has to be more than that to you," Yui insisted. "Mom let Ui and me watch Sailor Moon in reruns, and I remember Sailor Tin Nyanko came from the same planet as you. And she looked like she was human."
"And all three of us used to take human form back in Crystal Tokyo," Diana added. "You told me that I was supposed to stay in cat form while I was in the past."
Both Luna and Artemis looked surprised to hear that. "You remember how to change forms?" Luna asked.
"I've known how for all my life, mama." Diana looked into Luna's eyes, and a beam of light shot from the younger Mau's crescent mark to the elder's.
"Oh, wow!" came a happy cry from the doorway. Yui, Azusa, and Noodle looked over to see Subaru Mikage. "Magical cats! Are you here to become our advisors? Are Yui-san and Azusa-san about to become transforming heroines? Having magical teammates would make me so much more effective as an Ally of Justice! Oh, but we'd have to move, because Peggy-san doesn't like cats. What are you doing here, anyway?"
Noodle had had enough of Subaru's stream-of-consciousness monologue. "Subie-chan! Stop and breathe!"
"I don't want to become a magical girl," Azusa said quietly.
Then Artemis said, "We're already companions to magical girls, so we can't help you, miss."
"Ooh! Talking cat!"
"Subie-chan, you already knew that they're magical," Azusa pointed out as the light between Diana and Luna finally shut down. Normally, Azusa would show more respect to somebody older than she was, but she'd known Subaru-san long enough that the diminutive that everyone else used sounded right.
"Of course," Luna whispered. "It's so obvious." And she shifted from cat form to human form, complete with the dress and shoes that she wore when she became human during the Sailor Moon S movie.
"Your turn, papa," Diana said as she established a mental connection with Artemis.
Luna walked over to the mirror that Belldandy had passed through a month ago, and looked at herself as a human. Finally, she said, "I do look cute, if I say so myself."
"I always thought so," Artemis replied while putting an arm around her waist. His human form was taller than hers, with long white hair. "At least, seeing you like this awakened some of my memories of the two of us from the Silver Millennium."
Noodle looked over and said, "You know, if you got a haircut, you'd look somewhat like the Thin White Duke."
"I'd better not get a haircut, then. Whoever that is, I don't want to be mistaken for him."
"More importantly,." Diana said while taking human form herself, "we need some clothes other than the one set each of us are wearing."
Luna looked at her daughter from the future, who was the same height as Chibiusa, had grey hair and red eyes, and was wearing a grey skirt and blouse. "Your tail is still showing."
"Oh, mama, you're always complaining that I don't shift all the way..." Diana completed her transformation. "I never get to show off being a Mau."
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 03-21-2024
Momoko Takamachi. Ruiko Saten. Kyoko Tokiwa. Roberta Lincoln, eventually. All noncombatants who live in residences where all of the other refugees are trained in combat (allowing "espionage" as "combat" in Roberta's case). Should we have a wiki category for them? If yes, what should we call it?
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Norgarth - 03-22-2024
Resident Bystander/Civilian?
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Bob Schroeck - 03-22-2024
The problem is we need a good, simple category concept that wouldn't logically pull in every other noncombatant in the project, and can be expressed in just a couple words. Everything I can think of is too inclusive. Norgarth, I think you're on the right track, at least more so than I am, but not quite there.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 03-22-2024
I went poking around on All The Tropes - the closest we have there is "The Team Normal". But that's for folks like Batman in the \justice league or Captain America in the Avengers - still takes part in the action despite having no powers. There's no way that Momoko would pick up an Intelligent Device or Kyoko would get into the cockpit of an Arm Slave.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 03-31-2024
I've been creating more character pages and source pages over the last week. Apparently, having a lot of redlinks works against our SEO... but maybe I shouldn't have worried about that. Note the fourth result on the list, and what it places above:
Of course, this also means I'm going to have to raid other sources for info on this character.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Bob Schroeck - 03-31-2024
That first link? "nimodes" is the most recent pseudonym of Gregg Sharp, the creator of Toltiir. Anything you find in his work is pretty much definitive. The next link is a repost of an early work by Sharp, and is also definitive.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 03-31-2024
Alas, the first link - on the live web, at least - leads to a stub page with nothing we can use.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 04-10-2024
"Squid2403", if you're reading this, please reply here. Your wiki account will remain blocked until you do.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Bob Schroeck - 04-10-2024
Whoever they are, they haven't registered for an account here, yet.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Bob Schroeck - 06-04-2024
Okay, I created a new character attribute template this morning: {{gunfighter}} -- for anyone with skill with any kind of firearm, including energy weapons. I've added it to 55 characters, but there are more than a few I was uncertain about. Please feel free to check whether I got someone you know about.
While doing this, I stumbled over a couple dozen character pages which needed DEFAULTSORT, and fixed them. I went to add DEFAULTSORT to MediaWiki
isplacee but I don't have rights to edit that page, so if someone else could please put a default DEFAULTSORT in it? Thanks.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 06-04-2024
(06-04-2024, 02:18 PM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: While doing this, I stumbled over a couple dozen character pages which needed DEFAULTSORT, and fixed them. I went to add DEFAULTSORT to MediaWiki:Displacee but I don't have rights to edit that page, so if someone else could please put a default DEFAULTSORT in it? Thanks.
Oops... I probably made those pages to begin with. Thanks, Bob.
And "{{DEFAULTSORT:{{PAGENAME}}}}" is now in the template.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Bob Schroeck - 06-04-2024
Quote:Oops... I probably made those pages to begin with. Thanks, Bob.
Not all of them -- about a third were mine, I think.
Thank you.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 06-04-2024
(06-04-2024, 02:18 PM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: Okay, I created a new character attribute template this morning: {{gunfighter}} -- for anyone with skill with any kind of firearm, including energy weapons. I've added it to 55 characters, but there are more than a few I was uncertain about. Please feel free to check whether I got someone you know about.
I've added each of the Misaka Sisters to the list (but not the Original), since they share skills telepathically and four of them are in the gun club in Ottawa.
And I just created anotgher character attribute template : {{actor}} -- for anyone who treads the boards or performs for the silver or small screen. Most but not all of the Hanagumi plus two other people who live at the Grand Imperial Theater got it. I don't know whether we should give it to singing idols (although we only have two of those in Refuge so far).
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 06-15-2024
Is there anything Mary Sue can't do? {{gardner}} is now a thing on the wiki.
I'm thinking that Te Fiti doesn't get this one. She doesn't work at growing plants, they just grow around her. Kaji does get it, for as long as he tends to his melon patch. (The category says nothing about ornamental gardening, just gardening.)
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 07-18-2024
I must be getting old. I can't believe it took me of all people this long to think of creating this character icon.
(After all, my list was the one that TV Tropes based theirs on (with permission), back in the day.)
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 07-20-2024
This thread now has its own wiki page.
It could stand some cleanup, changing it from a simple dump of the thread contents to a coherent document. But it's primarily Labster's work, not mine... and, at this point, it's a low-priority task no matter who tackles it.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 08-17-2024
Yet another character icon: {{businessperson}}. "Characters who own or run their own businesses, either in their home realities or in Refuge. "
I wasn't sure about some characters, so I left them off the initial list.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Norgarth - 08-17-2024
(08-17-2024, 07:58 PM)robkelk Wrote: Yet another character icon: {{businessperson}}. "Characters who own or run their own businesses, either in their home realities or in Refuge. "
I wasn't sure about some characters, so I left them off the initial list.
you may want to add Osaka Naru's mom (No idea of her name)
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - robkelk - 08-18-2024
If she had a page of her own, I would.
RE: My Apartment Manager is not a Wiki Thread, #3 - Labster - 08-19-2024
Ah, now I remember why I hated this task: Doing page layout by editing a wiki is a non-optimal experience. At least some of your changes to the manual have pushed content onto a new page, which is now mostly empty.