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ReBoot stagger - notes and fragments - robkelk - 06-28-2012 Pulled out of the current Nano-Steps thread... robkelk Wrote:Time unknown. Date unknown. Location unknown.Eimi's format: Guardian - to mend and defend... Doug. (Her laptop body has become her keytool. Considering it's an IBM laptop, "Watson" would make a good name for it...) Doug's format: User. Don't let anyone know. DRAG0NFLIGHT Wrote:A quick snippet that popped into my head when I read Rob's post up above. Don't know if it's any good, but here it is.So much for nobody finding out... Proginoskes Wrote:In some ReBoot fanfic, there are specific kinds of Virus, based on powers and temperament. Megabyte is a Control Virus: he has powers specialized for brainwashing and seizing control, and corresponding megalomania. Hexadecimal is a Chaos Virus: her powers are vast, diverse, and unpredictable; her moods and thoughts are mercurial, but she helps as much as she harms. I don't like the idea of Doug being a User (judging by what little we learn about them, Users are everything Doug hates about Celestials), but I think it might be appropriate for Doug to look to Mainframe and its residents like a much weaker (and correspondingly saner) Chaos Virus. (I said "look", and not "Doug is a Virus", because my assumption is that Doug's person is invariant in transit: he can't be transformed by a Gate. On the other hand, a biological being doesn't fit into ReBoot's world very well, so Systems have to treat him as if he were a digital entity.)That bit about Hex is canon. (Daemon was a Cron Virus, by the way.) The bit about Megabyte isn't canon, but it makes sense. As for Users being the everything Doug hates about Celestials - we never see an actual User in the entire series. (We see some of their game-sprite avatars, but that's not the same thing.) They might not know what their games do to the binomes and sprites. Celestials are fully aware of the impact of their actions. DRAG0NFLIGHT Wrote:Heh. The angle I was going with the snippet really wasn't thought out as in-depth as all that. I was just considering what would happen if a human (User) showed up with what amounts to his own portable computing world with him. I mean, if you assume that inside every computer is a microverse filled with self-aware programs, then inside Doug's helmet is the exact same thing.And this only works if Doug's a User. This bit's new: "Where are you people from?" asked the one who looked like a toaster with a spindly head. Eimi stepped on my toes before I could reply. "We come from the multiverse - through systems, peoples, and cities - to this place," she said. "Mainframe," the green-skinned woman with the glasses volunteered. "My format: Guardian. To mend and defend - to defend my friend Doug, his hopes and dreams, and to defend him from his enemies." "Really?" She grinned at me. "Now that I'm like this, yes." -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Proginoskes - 06-29-2012 OK, Eimi wins hard for quoting the intro voiceover. And I'll grant that Mainframe's User could just be a clueless chainik, though I insist that whoever he's getting his Games from is actively malicious. The consequences of a User win are so rampantly destructive, I can't imagine that being a normal state of affairs. Anyway, the real reason I don't really like the idea of Doug as a User is precisely because we know so little about them. I tend to think that beings of that class are restricted to their "alien, unknowable overspace", as (looking for source... ah!) Evil Midnight Lurker put it. Nevertheless, I wouldn't put it past the forum (primarily you and DF) to make it work anyway. - LynnInDenver - 06-29-2012 Proginoskes Wrote:Anyway, the real reason I don't really like the idea of Doug as a User is precisely because we know so little about them. I tend to think that beings of that class are restricted to their "alien, unknowable overspace", as (looking for source... ah!) Evil Midnight Lurker put it. Nevertheless, I wouldn't put it past the forum (primarily you and DF) to make it work anyway.There is one level in there that could be used. Stronger than any security program, but not truly a digitized User... his permissions happen to be set as root. -- "You know how parents tell you everything's going to fine, but you know they're lying to make you feel better? Everything's going to be fine." - The Doctor - robkelk - 06-29-2012 JFerio Wrote:There is one level in there that could be used. Stronger than any security program, but not truly a digitized User... his permissions happen to be set as root.Also known as "superuser"... or, in Doug's case, "metauser." (His world has the term "metahuman" instead of "superhuman," after all. ) -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Jorlem - 07-11-2012 Well, given how heavily Reboot is inspired by Tron, I don't think it would be too much a stretch to draw on that for ideas of what a User could do while inside the computer. Also, Tron himself is likely a legend among the Guardians. ----- Stand between the Silver Crystal and the Golden Sea. "Youngsters these days just have no appreciation for the magnificence of the legendary cucumber." --Krityan Elder, Tales of Vesperia. - robkelk - 07-11-2012 Another snippet... They were roughly triangular, with cartoon-style heads at the middle of the flat edge at the top of their bodies. One was red, the other blue. "Oh, great," Eimi groaned. "Tweeldedumb and Tweeldedumber." "Those are not our names!" Whichever one said that, he sounded upset. "It's bad enough that Megabyte gets our names wrong; you don't need to make it worse!" "Well, he doesn't actually get our names wrong." "True. He does know what our names are." "He just calls us by each other's names." "And that really annoys me." "I was just about to say that." "Well, I did just say that." "Hey, the funny-looking sprite might be new here." "So he might not know what our names are?" "That was what I was thinking, yes." "Then we had better tell him." "You start." "Why do I have to start all the time?" "All right. I will start." The blue one turned toward me and announced, "I am Slash." I raised an eyebrow. "You don't really look like him. Is your friend named Axl?" Eimi facepalmed. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Bob Schroeck - 07-11-2012 Heh. Either that, or he'll end up calling them Fred and George if this takes place after DW8... -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - robkelk - 07-11-2012 Eimi is present - this has to take place after DW10... -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - robkelk - 07-11-2012 Proginoskes Wrote:And I'll grant that Mainframe's User could just be a clueless chainik, though I insist that whoever he's getting his Games from is actively malicious. The consequences of a User win are so rampantly destructive, I can't imagine that being a normal state of affairs.I've been re-watching the series... "The User does what he can to make our lives easier." - Phong, season 2 episode 1. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Jorlem - 07-12-2012 robkelk Wrote:You know how they used to say you are supposed to reboot your computer regularly, for stability reasons? (Haven't heard that in a while, though.) And remember how the entire system is completely restored at the end of the series, when the User reboots the computer? Yeah.Proginoskes Wrote:And I'll grant that Mainframe's User could just be a clueless chainik, though I insist that whoever he's getting his Games from is actively malicious. The consequences of a User win are so rampantly destructive, I can't imagine that being a normal state of affairs. Though, given how sprites are able to travel from system to system via the games, the games are obviously being shared around quite a bit. ----- Stand between the Silver Crystal and the Golden Sea. "Youngsters these days just have no appreciation for the magnificence of the legendary cucumber." --Krityan Elder, Tales of Vesperia. - Proginoskes - 07-12-2012 Yeah, that's major kudos for Mainframe's User: he's clearly hypervigilant about keeping backups. Guess he learned from the destruction of Twin City. - ECSNorway - 07-12-2012 Jorlem Wrote:Clearly, the games are MMORPGs.robkelk Wrote:You know how they used to say you are supposed to reboot your computer regularly, for stability reasons? (Haven't heard that in a while, though.) And remember how the entire system is completely restored at the end of the series, when the User reboots the computer? Yeah.Proginoskes Wrote:And I'll grant that Mainframe's User could just be a clueless chainik, though I insist that whoever he's getting his Games from is actively malicious. The consequences of a User win are so rampantly destructive, I can't imagine that being a normal state of affairs. -- Sucrose Octanitrate. Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode. - robkelk - 07-16-2012 "Megabyte, you magnificent bastard! I read your man page!" -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - robkelk - 07-16-2012 Jorlem Wrote:And remember how the entire system is completely restored at the end of the series, when the User reboots the computer?Well, the end of Season 3... Season 4 ends on a cliffhanger. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Norgarth - 07-16-2012 Jorlem Wrote:Perhaps they are online games.robkelk Wrote:You know how they used to say you are supposed to reboot your computer regularly, for stability reasons? (Haven't heard that in a while, though.) And remember how the entire system is completely restored at the end of the series, when the User reboots the computer? Yeah.Proginoskes Wrote:And I'll grant that Mainframe's User could just be a clueless chainik, though I insist that whoever he's getting his Games from is actively malicious. The consequences of a User win are so rampantly destructive, I can't imagine that being a normal state of affairs. ___________________________ "I've always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more specific." - George Carlin - Jorlem - 07-16-2012 robkelk Wrote:Wait... I thought the series ended with that system reboot...Jorlem Wrote:And remember how the entire system is completely restored at the end of the series, when the User reboots the computer?Well, the end of Season 3... Season 4 ends on a cliffhanger. There was more? Where can I find this? ----- Stand between the Silver Crystal and the Golden Sea. "Youngsters these days just have no appreciation for the magnificence of the legendary cucumber." --Krityan Elder, Tales of Vesperia. - robkelk - 07-17-2012 Jorlem Wrote:http://www.shoutfactorystore.com/prod.aspx?pfid=5257354]Here, or at any decent DVD shop in North America.robkelk Wrote:Wait... I thought the series ended with that system reboot...Jorlem Wrote:And remember how the entire system is completely restored at the end of the series, when the User reboots the computer?Well, the end of Season 3... Season 4 ends on a cliffhanger. (Edit: The collection is now sold out, but the two 2-season packs are still available http://www.shoutfactory.com/?q=node/176036]here and http://www.shoutfactory.com/?q=node/175079]here.) Season 4 has two arcs, although it's obvious there was supposed to be at least one more. You may recall a throwaway reference to "Daemon" when Matrix and Turbo met in Season 3 - the first arc is all about that particular virus. (Daemon is scary, in a way that Megabyte could never match.) The second arc is... oh, but that would be telling. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - robkelk - 11-03-2012 I just sent this bit to Ian... If I didn't already know this world was unusual from Eimi climbing out of my luggage, the appearance of two youngsters at the mouth of the alleyway would have tipped me off. The boy - who had green skin - was wearing what looked to be some sort of uniform, and seemed to be getting into some sort of attack stance. The girl - who had orange skin and pointed ears - was looking at us in awe. (Which worried me slightly. After a century, even I could figure out that the women I met liked me more often than the statistical average... but she was a pre-teen girl.) The boy opened his mouth to say something, noticed how she was reacting, then turned to her and asked, "What *is* it with you and bikes, Andrea?" (That's different. I stopped worrying so much.) Yes, I know I misspelled AndrAIa's name. See the "Fox/Fawkes" bit in the Harry Potter step for why. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Proginoskes - 11-03-2012 Interestingly, Young AndrAIa's VA was Andrea Libman. So Doug and Eimi are meddling in the Web War, are they? Excellent. Incidentally, I've decided that because Doug carries his homeline's rules wherever he goes, his best fit for program type is emulator, or possibly compatibility layer. He is, of course, running with root permissions (or whatever the DOS/Windows equivalent is). - robkelk - 11-03-2012 Doug is very good at computer security... from the outside. Let's see how well he does at fighting malware from the inside... -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Bob Schroeck - 11-04-2012 He'll just punch it in the face until it goes down. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - Proginoskes - 11-04-2012 I imagine headshot KOs might be easier if the creature is all head the way Web Creatures are. (They're basically giant malevolent flying cephalopods.) I don't know how Doug's Field interacts with mental attacks, but I had the image of Daemon attempting to infect and compel Doug… and her commands being warped into nonsensical compulsions like speaking exclusively in Pig Latin, or doing the Time Warp. On an unrelated note, I don't get the "Slash and Axl" reference. Elucidate? - Inquisitive Raven - 11-04-2012 Quick elucidation. Are you really surprised that that it has something to do with music? Also, according to that Wikipedia article, Slash is no longer with the band, but considering when Doug left his homeline, that might not have been the case at the time. - robkelk - 11-04-2012 Inquisitive Raven Wrote:Quick elucidation. Are you really surprised that that it has something to do with music? Also, according to that Wikipedia article, Slash is no longer with the band, but considering when Doug left his homeline, that might not have been the case at the time.Slash left G'n'R in 1996... but his guitar riff on the G'n'R song "Sweet Child of Mine" is legendary. Thus, he'll always be associated with the group, just like McCartney will always be a Beatle. -- Rob Kelk "Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of the same sovereign, servants of the same law." - Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012 - Bob Schroeck - 11-04-2012 Proginoskes Wrote:I don't know how Doug's Field interacts with mental attacksExactly as it works with everything else; the original Heightened Defense power doesn't care about the origin of the incoming attack, it just applies a minus to hit to it. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. |