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Getting schooled - Malkyros DB/WP Scrap - Niteflier - 05-15-2009
Kay, after having played around with Mids a bit more, and finding options that I was blind to previously, I came up with a halfway done build for my DB scrapper.
After just having picked up Rise to the Challenge and how much that acctually *sucked* when getting put to sleep/stunned/whatnot against freaks, I'm thinking a change of order might be coming. For now though, this is the order I picked out when I first made the character, halfway filled with slots/enh for a moneyed marketeer.
Focus is on, in order:
+REGEN! Gimme More!!!
+RECOVERY! I'm dying from no End here!
+HP! I've gotta outlast everything I comes up against!
And finally,
+ACC! Gotta be able to hit mah target, yah?
Here's the build at current:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Mal: Level 43 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Nimble Slash
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(5) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(7) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance
(A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(3) Impervium Armor - Resistance
Level 2: Power Slice
(A) Pounding Slugfest - Accuracy/Damage
(9) Pounding Slugfest - Damage/Endurance
Level 4: Fast Healing
(A) Miracle - +Recovery
(5) Miracle - Heal
(7) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
Level 6: Swift
(A) Empty
Level 8: Ablating Strike
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(9) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(11) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(11) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
Level 10: Hover
(A) Soaring - Endurance/FlySpeed
Level 12: Typhoon's Edge
(A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(13) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Damage
(15) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Endurance
Level 14: Health
(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(15) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(19) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
Level 16: Fly
(A) Freebird - Endurance
(17) Freebird - FlySpeed
(17) Freebird - +Stealth
Level 18: Rise to the Challenge
(A) Empty
Level 20: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
(25) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
Level 22: Quick Recovery
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
(23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
(23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
(25) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance
Level 24: Vengeful Slice
(A) Empty
Level 26: Sweeping Strike
(A) Empty
Level 28: Mind Over Body
(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(29) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(29) Titanium Coating - Resistance
Level 30: Indomitable Will
(A) Empty
Level 32: One Thousand Cuts
(A) Empty
Level 35: Heightened Senses
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge
Level 38: Resurgence
(A) Empty
Level 41: Strength of Will
(A) Empty
Level 44: Blinding Feint
(A) Empty
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:
3% DamageBuff(Smashing)
3% DamageBuff(Lethal)
3% DamageBuff(Fire)
3% DamageBuff(Cold)
3% DamageBuff(Energy)
3% DamageBuff(Negative)
3% DamageBuff(Toxic)
3% DamageBuff(Psionic)
7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% FlySpeed
180.7 HP (13.5%) HitPoints
5% JumpHeight
5% JumpSpeed
MezResist(Immobilize) 5.5%
MezResist(Sleep) 2.2%
10% (0.17 End/sec) Recovery
58% (3.24 HP/sec) Regeneration
2.25% Resistance(Psionic)
5% RunSpeed
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- Unicorna - 05-15-2009
Hope you don't mind, but this build intrigues me enough that I want to play around with it in mids. now, mind you, I tend to take builds apart with a rusty spork.
First off, what you should slot for. Regen and HP should be your main worries. Recovery should not even enter your mind. You are willpower. Your native recovery is the ENVY of every other scrapper set besides Regen. Especailly with taking both stamina and quick recovery. I myself run a Broadsword/Willpower scrapper. Broadsword sucks a lot more end/attack than dual blades does. On her, I run nine, NINE toggles. Her blue bar doesn't dip unless she's up against something that drains endurance, that is if they live long enough to actually drain anything from you.
Back to dual blades/willpower then. You do not need to worry about +rec, though you will want to keep an eye towards -end cost in your toggles. Willpower is a demanding secondary, every power except one is required (resurgence). Dual Blades is a demanding primary. To make use of the combo system, you will need every attack except one (confront). Hence we're going to be talking about a TIGHT build. Do-able, definately, but tight.
Here's my proposal for order of powers then:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Level 43 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Nimble Slash Empty(A)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance Empty(A)
Level 2: Ablating Strike Empty(A)
Level 4: Fast Healing Empty(A)
Level 6: Typhoon's Edge Empty(A)
Level 8: Blinding Feint Empty(A)
Level 10: Indomitable Will Empty(A)
Level 12: Hover Empty(A)
Level 14: Fly Empty(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge Empty(A)
Level 18: Vengeful Slice Empty(A)
Level 20: Quick Recovery Empty(A)
Level 22: Mind Over Body Empty(A)
Level 24: Swift Empty(A)
Level 26: Sweeping Strike Empty(A)
Level 28: Health Empty(A)
Level 30: Stamina Empty(A)
Level 32: One Thousand Cuts Empty(A)
Level 35: Power Slice Empty(A)
Level 38: Strength of Will Empty(A)
Level 41: Heightened Senses Empty(A)
Level 44: Resurgence Empty(A)
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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This build has every power that was posted in your build, just in a different order. No, I didn't put anything into the slots. This is the quick and dirty breakdown. One thing to remember is that you don't need stamina at 20, quick recovery is actually much better than stamina. By the time you do need it, when you pick up more attacks and toggles, you have the free space to get it without sacrificing anything else. This build also gives you access to all the combos as they come available. Sweep will be the last one available, but that's because your lvl 32 power is the opening attack for sweep. You won't be able to actually do a full sweep combo until 35 however.
Slotting... I'd suggest +damage, rech, acc for the attacks. -end cost for all the toggles. of course, fill all of your auto powers (FH, QR, health, stamina) to the gills with heal and end mod IOs. This build should get you pretty far.
Y'know... I've been intending to make a willpower brute one of these days... and this build is looking pretty good for that... *stealz*
- Acyl - 05-15-2009
I agree with everything Uni's said. Not sure about her suggested power order - there's a few things she's done that I definitely wouldn't do. BUT this is purely personal preference. Basically, I wouldn't put the defensive toggles off so late, BUT that's really up to you...you need to decide if you want to prioritise Stamina, your defenses, or your attacks...either way, SOMETHING has to give.
Let me cross-link you to this:- my Elec/Willpower brute build
It's built to maximise +regen and +hp, more or less. I don't pretend that it's the best build ever, but aside from the uniques (which I mostly acquired with merits), it is reasonably affordable. The uniques are really quite optional to the build.
Trust me when I say that you don't need to worry about +recovery slotting on a WP - your IO'd endrec in the attacks and toggles will be sufficient if you're running Quick Recovery / Stamina - I don't even notice when Strength of Will crashes, typically.
Here's a quick and dirty conversion to DB/WP scrapper, utilizing similar IOs. Please note that this build runs up against the maximum set bonus limit in a few places - where they overlap I've chosen to use cheaper sets:- eg. Titanium Coating and Kinetic Combat's bonuses instead of more Mako's (Freebird also conveys the same +HP bonus, if you reshuffle slots this may be a good alternative to the three above sets also)
This build includes some uniques, specifically Numina's, Regen Tissue, and Steadfast +3% def. These are the most expensive part and are optional.
Bear in mind that I only spent 15-20 minutes on this, so I don't promise this is optimum in any way. Indeed if I were doing it myself, I wouldn't try to take all the combos - you can really safely drop one or two..
Anyway, this build gets you a bonus 386.5 HP (28.9%) HitPoints and 138% (7.71 HP/sec) Regeneration (with the uniques, mind) - also a small chunk of +def to energy/negative. If I could fit in some Fire/Cold defense, trust me, I would. Indeed you may want to consider swapping out some of the Titanium Coating sets - perhaps put in Freebird into your Fly/Hover again. That'd let you use the Aegis three-slot bonus in some resistance powers. If you're not using the Steadfast unique in High Pain Tolerance, I would DEFINITELY slot an Aegis set in HPT.
Why? Well, your protection against exotic damage isn't that great on a vanilla WP build. Taking Weave and running Hover helps, but a few set bonuses can really boost what Heighted Senses does to you versus exotic damage.
Anyway:-
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
DB/Will Rough: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Nimble Slash -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(3), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(15), B'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(23), B'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(37), B'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(3), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(9), ResDam-I(45), ResDam-I(46), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 2: Ablating Strike -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(5), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(5), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(7)
Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(7), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Erad-Dmg(40)
Level 8: Blinding Feint -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(9), B'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(11), B'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(31), B'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(13)
Level 12: Hover -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Empty(A), Empty(43)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(17), Numna-Heal/Rchg(17), RgnTis-Regen+(40)
Level 18: Vengeful Slice -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(19), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(21), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(21), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(34)
Level 22: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Health -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(25), Numna-Heal(25)
Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(27), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(27), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(29)
Level 30: Power Slice -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 32: One Thousand Cuts -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(33), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(33), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 35: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(36), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(50)
Level 38: Strength of Will -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam(39)
Level 41: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(42), Numna-Heal/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(48), TtmC'tng-ResDam(48)
Level 49: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(50), LkGmblr-Def(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 3% Defense(Smashing)
- 3% Defense(Lethal)
- 3% Defense(Fire)
- 3% Defense(Cold)
- 16.1% Defense(Energy)
- 16.1% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 3% Defense(Melee)
- 9.56% Defense(Ranged)
- 3% Defense(AoE)
- 5.4% Max End
- 386.5 HP (28.9%) HitPoints
- MezResist(Immobilize) 8.25%
- MezResist(Sleep) 6.6%
- 5% (0.08 End/sec) Recovery
- 138% (7.71 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 4% XPDebtProtection
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-- Acyl
- Morganite - 05-16-2009
Unicorna Wrote:Dual Blades is a demanding primary. To make use of the combo system, you will need every attack except one (confront).
You don't really have to take *all* of them. The recommendation I've seen is to pick the combos that will be most useful to you, and take the appropriate attacks.
-Morgan.