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The State of Trump's State Department - DHBirr - 03-02-2017
Article in The Atlantic.
For me, the most disturbing line was in the final paragraph:
Quote:“This is probably what it felt like to be a British foreign service officer after World War II, when you realize, no, the sun actually does set on your empire,” said the mid-level officer. “America is over. And being part of that, when it’s happening for no reason, is traumatic.”"America is over." That, at least, is the impression the current situation in his office gives this fellow.
Oh, shit.
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Big Brother is watching you. And damn, you are so bloody BORING.
- ordnance11 - 03-02-2017
What I suspect is that the only tool is a hammer, you start looking for nails to hammer. Trump wants a short glorious war. He'll find out that's not the case nowadays.
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- robkelk - 03-02-2017
Has there been a war that was both short and glorious in the last century? (Possibly the Six Days War, depending on your definition of "glorious", but the USA wasn't involved in that.)
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"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."
- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
- Jinx999 - 03-02-2017
Quote:robkelk wrote:The Falkland's war?
Has there been a war that was both short and glorious in the last century? (Possibly the Six Days War, depending on your definition of "glorious", but the USA wasn't involved in that.)
- ordnance11 - 03-02-2017
Quote:robkelk wrote:6 Day War? - That victory turned into Israel's bane IMO.
Has there been a war that was both short and glorious in the last century? (Possibly the Six Days War, depending on your definition of "glorious", but the USA wasn't involved in that.)
Criteria- Clear cut victory in less than a month with no downside to the victor
Candidates - Panama and Grenada
__________________
Into terror!, Into valour!
Charge ahead! No! Never turn
Yes, it's into the fire we fly
And the devil will burn!
- Scarlett Pimpernell
- ordnance11 - 03-02-2017
Quote:Jinx999 wrote:Bone of contention (who owns the islands?) has not been resolved.Quote:robkelk wrote:The Falkland's war?
Has there been a war that was both short and glorious in the last century? (Possibly the Six Days War, depending on your definition of "glorious", but the USA wasn't involved in that.)
__________________
Into terror!, Into valour!
Charge ahead! No! Never turn
Yes, it's into the fire we fly
And the devil will burn!
- Scarlett Pimpernell
- Jinx999 - 03-02-2017
Quote:ordnance11 wrote:Yes. It has. The choice of 99.8% of the population (and a more powerful military) trumps wishful thinking.Quote:Jinx999 wrote:Bone of contention (who owns the islands?) has not been resolved.Quote:robkelk wrote:The Falkland's war?
Has there been a war that was both short and glorious in the last century? (Possibly the Six Days War, depending on your definition of "glorious", but the USA wasn't involved in that.)
- ordnance11 - 03-02-2017
Quote:Jinx999 wrote:Heck, the Argentines refuse to take back their dead. So until the problem (sovereignty) is resolved, the UK still has to base a force on the island.Quote:ordnance11 wrote:Yes. It has. The choice of 99.8% of the population (and a more powerful military) trumps wishful thinking.Quote:Jinx999 wrote:Bone of contention (who owns the islands?) has not been resolved.
The Falkland's war?
__________________
Into terror!, Into valour!
Charge ahead! No! Never turn
Yes, it's into the fire we fly
And the devil will burn!
- Scarlett Pimpernell