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[RFC] The Trials of the Brothers Grimm (working title) - Black Aeronaut - 03-07-2013 Okay, I'm just gonna lay out the basic stuff as well as some of my concerns. First of all, this fic is going to be directly related to ATC's Sleeping With The Girls - while no real familiarity with this work is actually needed, it does help. We are currently working with ATC's permission on this and even get occasional 'technical support' from him. Secondly... this is about as different from Sleeping With The Girls as SWTG is from Drunkard's Walk. Yes, characters are jumping to different worlds in a seemingly (at first) random pattern. Yes, looping the cycle of world-jumps is involved. The Matter Property Transfer principal is in full effect. There is even tangential jump, but about there the similarities end. Differences:
Another concern of mine... I have to teach some of my brothers simply how to write. There have already been a few violations of the 'Show, Don't Tell' rule so terrible that the writing reads drier than a police report. Although I do have to admit that they make for excellent plot outlines. I don't have the complete world list for all my siblings in front of me, but I can at least provide my own jump-path as it stands now. Group Worlds in Bold. Solo Worlds in Italics.
It should be noted that I acquire a VF-1A Valkyrie in Robotech... and I manage to take it with me, not quite realizing I was going to jump (I suspect at this point, but I'm not certain until immediately afterwards). This acquisition, though it is highly modified over the course of events, becomes absolutely indispensable when I hit my Space Opera Arc. (Jumping unprotected into hard vacuum - not recommended.) Another note: my character begins studying Aikido early on - most likely Shodokan Aikido - in Oh! My Goddess. This is due to my character's balance being upset by the sudden shift (no matter how much he likes Japan) and seeking to regain some equilibrium. In Robotech, however, he will start adding to his repertoire of disarmament capability - not just knives, but also swords, staffs, spears, pole-arms, and even firearms. This, of course, is mainly in anticipation of future trouble. Eventually it will begin to culminate when he arrives in Katanagatari where Yasuri Shichika's interest is piqued - Aikido is, after all, the very antithesis to his Kyotoryu. (Technically an empty-handed style, Kyotoryu focuses on 'forging' your body as though making it into a blade, therefore making you into a living sword, or a swordless swordsman. It is very heavy on traumatic killing blows. Aikido has its technical base in swordsmanship as well, but focuses on harming your opponent as little as possible with joint locks and throws. Also has the advantage of having no real precedence in Japan during the Edo period.) For my character to spar Shichika is a joke - it is literally like trying to fight a tree (imagery that isn't helped by his leaf-pattern motif). Shichika is simply that large and powerful. His sister, Nanami, on the other hand has no such strength and the gentle style of Aikido is agreeable to her weak constitution. She would spar out of pure curiosity. She always likes to learn new things and has an uncanny ability to learn techniques from a single observation, and then master them, to the point of finding and correcting flaws, on a second observation. She would be able to extrapolate and perfect my character's Aikido, and, despite its distinct lack of killing blows, probably deem it a worthy rival of the Kyotoryu, herself having learned it by secretly observing Shichika's lessons. She would insist I perfect the style so Shichika would have someone to 'hone' himself against. Thoughts so far? - Bluemage - 03-07-2013 So if I'm understanding the properties of your jumps correctly, you appear in a universe, in which you have a certain set amount of time before you disappear again, only to reappear in the same place and time you left when you return there in the next loop. ...what happens if you left the AMS universe inside, say, a bedroom? Would you then reappear inside that bedroom... inside a VF-1A bigger than the room? On that same note, what happens if you appear next to somebody else? My Unitarian Jihad Name is: Brother Atom Bomb of Courteous Debate. Get yours. I've been writing a bit. - Seraviel - 03-07-2013 I'd need more information. I.E. what are the goals in this. To explain, what makes DW that interesting to me are the two goals: First, Doug's desire to return home to his wife, which is perfectly understandable given the personality he shows, and second the overall goal of his travels (I amk not one who believes they are completely random, not after the OMG step). I have my theories about that one, as I am sure many have, but they remain at the moment theories. So, why are the brothers walking the worlds, both personally and plot-wise ? -People may die, but ideas are forever. Je suis Charlie. - Star Ranger4 - 03-08-2013 I dont either Seraviel. In fact, I got the distinct impression that "The THree" are using Doug in sort of a QL manner; his seemingly 'random' jumps are directed by the 3 to ensure he appears at the places/times where he can make changes for the better just by being himself. Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry- NO QUARTER!!! -- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children - classicdrogn - 03-08-2013 Interesting, but the potential to go horribly, horribly wrong is massive, terrifying, and possibly both in either order. I will be interested to see how it goes... -- "Anko, what you do in your free time is your own choice. Use it wisely. And if you do not use it wisely, make sure you thoroughly enjoy whatever unwise thing you are doing." - HymnOfRagnorok as Orochimaru at SpaceBattles woot Med. Eng., verb, 1st & 3rd pers. prsnt. sg. know, knows - Black Aeronaut - 03-08-2013 Bluemage Wrote:SoCorrect. Bluemage Wrote:...what happens if you left the AMS universe inside, say, aThe intention is that the increased mass limit is intended for vehicles and other items that are intended to be 'portable'. As for appearing next to someone else... the jumps are not intended to be malicious in such a manner, not even through the inattention of the being enabling these jumps. There will be no 'splatter-spawning' happening in this story. Seraviel Wrote:I'd need more information. I.E. what are the goals in this.Okay, this is gonna be interesting... There is gonna be the obvious - try to get back home. Of course, we'll go the obvious route right away and try to ask Belldandy and her sisters for help. They'll politely say no, and explain that they've been forbidden from helping on that front, and more than that they can't say. This is a clue hammer that tells us the the Almighty is involved - and he is, but merely as a mediator and facilitator. More on that in a minute. Some of the brothers are going to be persuing all kinds of methods. For example, one of them is going to Dragon Ball (post-GT, so the shenanigans will be to a minimum) and he is going to try and summon a dragon and wish for himself and all the rest of the brothers to be sent back home. Of course, that one will be a no-go. Eventually, some of us are going to start to realize that there is going to be very little point in going home. My character will be the first to realize this as he'll be forming some serious relationships. For others it will be due to what they feel is a loss of their humanity. Outside that, we have a tentative plan for their to be a game going on between several ROBs, chief amongst them ATC's ROB as he would have been the one to instigate this game. The Almighty is the one who has organized the game and the stakes are pretty high: entire universes. The Brothers are the game pieces on the board, however rather than satisfy some condition, instead our future actions are wagered. Bear in mind, though, this is tentative right now. ClassicDrogn Wrote:Interesting,Oh yes indeedy. In particular - Nanami. So, Nanami is constantly ill, and has very little respect for life (even less so than your average samurai warlord)... the only thing she really cares about is her brother, Shichika. I have an in with her because she sees me as someone that can keep her brother 'sharp'. - Seraviel - 03-08-2013 First, Specify ROB (in my mind you are talking about the Nintendo robot, and I can easily assume this is false) Second, I am very interested in this, mainly because I have an actual jump path already from an old story plan of mine. As such, I'd be very interested in the rules of this game you are talking about, if only to see if I can adjust my idea to those rules. Third, go ahead and write; I'll be lloking at this for sure. -People may die, but ideas are forever. Je suis Charlie. - Black Aeronaut - 03-08-2013 ROB = Random Omnipotent Being. This is usually any being that has power to do things like pick up people and fling them wherever, whenever in the multiverse as often as they please. We only recently hit upon the idea for the game. We haven't even really hashed out the rules as of yet. And we have been writing, but it's been very touch-and-go. Group worlds are difficult to write because everyone wants to be properly represented, if you know what I mean. (Remember that this is a group project between myself and my brothers IRL.) - Bluemage - 03-08-2013 Seraviel Wrote:First, Specify ROB (in my mind you are talking about the Nintendo robot, and I can easily assume this is false)ROB: Random Omnipotent Being... if you're being polite, that is. Term comes from Spacebattles, where there's a sort of mini-genre of 'SBer gets dumped into a fictional universe by somebody, and has to try to survive/conquer it/derail everything'. The ROB is the mechanism behind the whole 'gets dumped into a fictional universe' part of the premise. Q is the most common ROB, but there are others. My Unitarian Jihad Name is: Brother Atom Bomb of Courteous Debate. Get yours. I've been writing a bit. - Black Aeronaut - 03-08-2013 John de Lancie!Q will actually be making appearances as one of the contenders representing the entire Q Continuum. Don't worry, there will be other, more serious ROBs in the game. But Q should make things quite interesting. - RomanFanboy - 03-08-2013 First, thanks. I've been meaning to remember Katanagatari for some notes I have been working on. Secondly, isn't Nanami the one with the 'I was only disciplining a child' quote, or something to that effect? If so, good luck on surviving. Sometimes punishment is part of being ensuring a student is doing a proper job. If only one of the threads is a deconstruction, I don't know that I'll mind, so long as it is fun. In other words, if you concentrate on your own project, and can show that it is stronger for those choices, maybe you can sell them with your action. Experiments and lab work can be the strongest of arguments at times. I'm afraid that I haven't followed Sleeping closely lately. (Just haven't been finding the time and energy. I suppose I should look into it again.) Is it, counts, three years per cycle for everyone? Hmm..., if you instead age at a 1/12 speed, that would not have any oddness in each world's time, and might be a good compromise between aging full speed and not at all. Pokemon anime continuity- does this include Porygon and the other banned episodes? Movies? All seasons or just a selection? What time do you appear in Katanagatari and Banner? Any crosses with Classical times and sources, the Sengoku Jidai, ACW, any period of American History, WWII or the Cold War? Also, the Dragonball guy wouldn't happen to also be going to Disgaea? Hmm... 12-4=8 8*5+4=44 Good Luck - Black Aeronaut - 03-09-2013 My pleasure! I'm always happy to bring things to light for others. May I ask what you're researching Katanagatari for? I'm pretty sure that was Nanami - she once ripped out all of Shichika's fingernails because he wouldn't stop biting them. Fortunately, my character will have prior knowledge of this aspect of her and will, therefore, be on his best behavior. Training will be another matter entirely, though I'm fairly certain that Nanami would understand that one cannot really make any serious progress if they're nursing an injury. Regarding deconstruction, I'm hoping that will be the case. If anything, I'm hoping that some beta-readings will go a long way towards getting them to cool their jets. Yes, it is indeed three years per cycle. I do like the idea about the 1/12th speed aging... Just asked the boys, and the answer is unanimous: YES! Thank you kindly. ![]() And yes, that continuuity includes EVERYTHING. :p However, we show up just prior to the very beginning, and the Butterfly Effect is in full force... Ash... is going to be receiving some extra special guidance. But that's not all. For one thing, elements of the games will be included, simply because it would make sense. For example, Ralts will be commonly found outside of Pallet Town. Also, Ash is not going to be permanently twelve, and Pikachu is not going to be eternally nerfed. And Brock will finally get some. I appear in Katanagatari about two weeks before the start of the story. I would have full knowledge of what's coming, complete with Shikizaki Kiki's original intent. With this knowledge, I set out with the only thing I feel has a snowball's chance in hell in achieving the best outcome - I set out to conquer Japan. It will involve acquiring the assistance of the holders of the Twelve Deviant Blades as well as the assistance of the Yasuri family and Togami as well. Granted, this means I would have to also gain the trust and assistance of Princess Hitei, but I think it would work out once she knows my full intent. Note that I won't necessarily be doing this for myself because I don't know that I'm looping yet. For Banner of the Stars, I show up in orbit of that prison world in Banner of the Stars II... just in time for Lafiel and Jinto to show up. Now, my Veritech will have a number of odd technologies that the Abh will find interesting... and Lafiel will immediately receive orders to capture me. Thanks to the combination of tech I acquire I am able to evade for quite a while... enough that it starts to become a game that Lafiel enjoys. But once shit hits the fan on the prison colony, I am only too happy to offer assistance to keep the convicts from the Men's side of the island from completely overrunning the complex right away. Jinto still gets taken hostage and is left behind. I allow this on purpose because I intend to spend some time with him, more or less alone. You see, Jinto may be fairly low on the totem pole in Abh society, but he still has the ears of the Abriel Family. And they have been shown to be more than happy to accommodate the Rock-Hyde family. Basicly, I make sure that Jinto is healthy and whole when Lafiel shows up... and gaining rudimentary knowledge of the Abh language is a huge plus. I would work out that the Abh get detailed information about the technology I have with me in exchange for citizenship and keeping my Veritech intact. (Though I do let Abh engineers have an up-close look - so long as they don't do any harm to it.) No crossovers with classical time periods and such. It's all straight-up fiction. And DB-guy is not going to Disgaea, sorry. And yes... We have a lot of material to cover. You should see the bookshelf we're using to keep it all. OH! I has complete world-list! Enjoy! [table] | |||||
Character | Darwin Grimm | Slade Grimm | Spencer Grimm | Alan Grimm | Garrick Grimm |
Group World 1 | Oh! My Goddess | ||||
Solo World 1 | Harry Potter (Book 4) | Final Fantasy X | S-Cry-Ed | Dragon Ball (post-GT) | Robotech |
Solo World 2 | Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind | Rosario+Vampire | Crysis | Kenichi: History's Mightiest Disciple | Vandread |
Group World 2 | Pokemon | ||||
Solo World 3 | Star Fox Adventures | Familiar of Zero | Final Fantasy IX | Final Fantasy VIII | Katanagatari |
Solo World 4 | Full Metal Alchemist (Manga) | Legend of Dragoon | Eragon | Final Fantasy XII | Utawarerumono |
Group World 3 | Portal/Half-Life | ||||
Tangent Step (does not repeat) | Highschool of the Dead | Prince of Persia | Stargate | Land of the Blindfold | Forgotten Realms (City of Menzobaranzan) |
Solo World 5 | Overlord | Elemental Gelade | Avatar | MÄR | Space Battleship Yamato 2199 |
Solo World 6 | Inyu Yasha (Manga) | Legend of Zelda | Metroid | Fable | Banner of the Stars |
Group World 4 | Final Fantasy VII | ||||
Solo World 7 | Firefly | Chrome Shelled Regios | Naruto | Code Geass | Bubblegum Crises (OVA) |
Solo World 8 | Star Wars Ep. 1 | Yu Yu Hakusho | Halo | Claymore | Battle Angel Alita: Last Order |