All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XX

[LynnInDenver]

So, I haven't commented much lately, but let me start with saying that the Fandom decision is pretty bad.  What GethN7 posted was terribly ignorant, but people are ignorant on the internet all the time and they don't ban all of those people.  Instead of trying to correct someone who was trying to follow the rules after years of service, they just banned him.  This is cancel culture at his dumbest.

I would agree that Geth should have been given the opportunity to prune his views off the post first before being banned. The pointing out of the views and how he's having to stifle them because of the local rules was, shall we say, absolutely and utterly unnecessary even in the context. It doesn't help prove the point in the discipline he was metting out, and indeed may have also harmed his position because, "well, maybe you should be fighting for me instead of asking me to follow these 'asinine' rules."

But let's go back to the ignorance.  What he wrote shows he hasn't thought things through that much.  You didn't even define transgender correctly; no hormones or body alteration is required to be trans.  Do you even know any trans people, Geth?  I have three friends, and three more acquaintances, who are trans women.  You didn't think about it from their perspective, obviously.  But you're failing at the religious perspective, too.  First principles is: "Love the Lord your God and love your neighbors as yourself."  Does what you said show love to these people?  I think it fails at that.  There is perhaps an argument to be made on the last clause about whether trans people love themselves, but that's neither here nor there because it's honestly not your business.  You know what can overcome "immutable reality"?  Faith, that's what.  Sheesh.

A big part of what I saw was the mixing up of sex (the physical construction) and gender (basiically what the person prefers to present as), and the issue of society insisting that one MUST follow the other in lockstep (and resulting in a high toxicity for anyone who doesn't fully align with what society says is acceptable for each). Which does include that, as a trans woman, for me, it's literally a choice between making the best that I can of my mental and physical disconnects, versus making myself miserable shoving myself into a box on a day to day basis that I absolutely do not feel comfortable in, and that more importantly, that most people involved in providing treatment, that it's typically much better (not easier) to roll out the other boxes than to try to make me feel more comfortable trying to shove myself into that box that doesn't really fit.

And regarding the "trans people love themselves", I... didn't like the person I was being by trying to deal with it in the way Geth implies that I should, by finding ways to deal with it without altering my presentation from "obviously and unambiguously male". I had a LOT of destructive behaviors, both internally (various self-abusive behaviors and anger management failures) and externally (toxic relationships, seeking the wrong sorts of outside affirmation), that were difficult to abate in any way absent altering my presentation to match the way that made me comfortable, or involving being so heavily drugged (either by prescription or self-treatment, which were not options for me for various reasons) I wouldn't really be a person anymore.