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META: Magic in Fenspace
 
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HRogge Wrote:
Ace Dreamer Wrote:Putting body, mind and soul or spirit together into something which can live a normal life is often glossed over. There may be issues of fate or destiny that may make the process more difficult. Tricking the world into believing this is a conventional birth might suit some approaches. Or the "still has unfinished work to do" may be used. If the soul or spirit is unwilling to be resurrected then they may get a veto - continuing a resurrection after this (which may not even be possible with the simpler 'packaged' resurrection approaches) may give you the body and mind you want, but a new person, who will likely develop over time their own new purposes and motivations ("free soul with every new incarnation"). Producing an 'instant adult' like this can really upset the natural process of life and death, or the guardians of this, in some settings.
IF there is something like a soul, I wonder what was happened with victims of Quattros memory tech... if you kill/erase the "mind", does the soul leave? If you copy a mind from one body to another (Vivio became a shallow copy of Cathy), does a new soul appear or does the original one split?
Souls tend to be indivisible and tamper-proof in most settings, even the higher powers can't (directly) affect them in most cases.  The few settings where this isn't the case can be very, very, messy.
Usually the soul is assumed not to forget - there is on some level a record of all previous lives there.  Without a soul the mind/body combination doesn't tend to be too functional.  Normally it takes physical death to detach a soul from an individual body.
If there is no mind in the body, and so its not functional, that might count as a 'death'.  It might be the decision of the soul as to whether to hang around in case there is some future prospect of 'living', say by a mind being inserted into the empty body.  Or, the soul might leave, and printing a new mind into the empty soul-less body might count as a new incarnation ("free soul with each new incarnation").
As for the Vivio example, either the original soul hangs around, or a new one is incarnated - I don't think soul splitting will occur in the Fenspace setting, at least in this case (or, in fact, in almost any case).
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"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" - Hawkwind
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META: Magic in Fenspace - by Ace Dreamer - 09-29-2012, 12:10 AM
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