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[/table]The Groombridge 34 binary system was the
target of the 2021 venture between graduate students from the University of
Delhi’s new Xeno Studies department and the Nekomi Institute of Technology, as
well as a grab-bag of just over a dozen scientists from across the globe. The
project was supported by the Republic of India and several private donations.
Leasing the eight kilometer mobile station NFV Barge, the expedition left in June of that year for a one year
mission.

Having already predicted the
existence of planets from long-range observations, being carried along were
numerous long-term research satellites, a disassembled, prefabricated base for
use as either a planetary facility or a lunar/asteroidal one, and a quantum
entanglement communicator purchased from Catgirl Industries. This was part of a
secondary goal of the project, in which those members of the DU-NIT Mission
previously volunteered and vetted would establish a research station in the
Groombridge 34 A system.

What the crew found upon arrival
stunned them. At three, the 34 A system remains the current record for
habitable planets.

The Groombridge 34 Binary System

Following the International
Astronomical Union’s moratorium on using Greek mythological names for stellar
bodies, the crew of the 2021 DU-NIT Mission happily used names of locations
from the Hindu faith for Groombridge 34 planetary nomenclature.(1)

Meru

The planet closest to the star is a hot one. This is not only due to its
location, though. Meru is 5.05 times the mass of Earth, making it a
superterrestrial. Furthermore, it is so geologically active (Starfleet Class C
[Supergeomorteus]) that it has no permanent surface and its atmosphere is a
soup of volcanic gasses.

Thuvaraiyam Pathi

The second inner planet is the first of the habitable bodies of the system. Despite
not retaining as much water as it would have slightly further out, Thuvaraiyam
Pathi maintains 45 percent surface water in the form of two saltwater oceans
-  Makara and Timingila – and numerous
lakes and oasis. Regardless, just over half of the land area is near-desert
scrubland. Said land itself comes in the form of two continents, Heheya and Kekeya.
Kekeya is itself probably technically two continents, however, indicated by
Himalaya shaming Kaustubha Range.

The largest lifeform encountered by survey teams was the Heheya Rhinoceros,
an herbivorous mammal the size of an African bull elephant travelling the Vaidurya
Plains in small herds and possessing a fearsome trio of triceratops style
horns. These, in turn, were often stalked by the largest predator seen on the
world, the Chameleon Naga, a feline-like lizard the size of a Clydesdale horse
with terrifyingly good camouflage ability.

The planet is also clearly a Gardener-affected world. Surveyed geological
strata identified by the 2021 mission display no fossil record whatsoever. Even
more conclusively, plant samples taken by the mission closely match with
samples obtained from Gallifrey.

Shamballa

The second of the system’s habitable worlds, it is the most lush world and
has just over 60 percent water coverage. Extensive river systems carry water
across the planet’s land masses and desertification is minor. Continents
include a disconnected northern and southern pair in one hemisphere, Kishkindha
and Danda, and a connected pair of western and eastern continents, Videha and Mithila.
It possesses one moon, Kalapa.

After the examination of the second planet, a similar study of the third
indicates that Shamballa is a natural world. One particular geological sample
was an upthrust cliff along a fault line, examination of which revealed an
iridium rich layer, estimated at 14 million years ago, similar to that
possessed by Earth’s geological record at the K-T Extinction Level Event.

Life on the planet is rich and diverse, ranging from temperate and
rainforests, and possessing a varied animal kingdom. Of interesting note about
the mammal analogues of Shamballa is that they are capable of swapping their
genders over a several month period, much like certain fictional dinosaurs. In
particular, Danny, Cory, and Chuck – clever, resourceful, lemur-like animals – were
brought back to Earth for further study.(2) Other living samples brought back
were seedlings and one fully-grown specimen of a tree which grows a fruit
similar to a pear year round and which is safe for human consumption.(3)

Research Station Deva was founded November 15, 2021 on Videha. Shamballa
would become the focus of India’s 2023 colonization program. By 2024, a
population of 20,000 was permanently established, centered around the
settlement Indraprastha on Danda.(4)

Kumari Kandam

“A world of Australias” as described by one observer, Kumari Kandam’s land
is composed entirely of island continents, the largest half again Australia’s
size and the smallest the size of North and South Islands of New Zealand
combined, all named after the sixteen Mahajanapadas.(5) The land to water ratio
is roughly even at 48 to 52 percent respectively. The environment is analogous
to Earth temperate forests for most of the planet, cooling very slowly
eventually to sub-arctic and polar conditions. It has three moons, all small,
captured asteroids.

The most confusing thing about the planet is the uniformity of its
biosphere. Planet and animal specimens taken from each of the island continents
show very little differentiation or variety. As an example, there were maybe
fifteen species of bush identified across the entire globe during the survey,
with few to no subspecies.

It is so odd that surveyors originally thought this was another Gardener
terraformed world. A collection of fossil samples from three continents,
however, gave only more headaches. The samples clearly show the presence of
life going back far into the past. In fact, one living specimen of a sea bird
perfectly matches a recovered fossil specimen… from an estimated 250 million
years ago.

Asteroid
Belt


Your basic debris belt of leftovers from the system’s creation, estimates
place it at only about half as dense as Sol’s belt.

Mughal

The final planet of the 34 A system is a dark green, ringless gas giant
roughly in the weight class of Neptune. Due to focus on the three habitable
planets of the system, little was observed about the system’s big brother other
than it possessing several cryogenic-type moons similar to Triton.

Groombridge 34 B

The companion to Groombridge 34 A was only observed in passing on the 2021
mission’s trip home. An example of a solar system that failed to form, it
possesses numerous asteroid belts and several dozen dwarf planets. Groombridge
34 B was, however, noted as a possible rich source of space mining.

1: The exception is Mughal, which is named in honor of the empire by that
name. It was decided that naming the stellar bodies after the Hindu deities
could wait until a larger system where more could be represented could be
found. The fist fight that came about from trying to decide which names of
which incarnations of which deities to use prior to this decision had nothing
to do with it.

2: Actually, they apparently snuck aboard the Barge via a returning secondary craft. They were only discovered
half-way back to Sol while on a venture out of Refuse Holding Compartment #3,
where they had made a den-slash-nest while crewmembers were tracking who or
whatever was stealing food from storage.

3. Not very tasty though. On a scale of “Ugh” to “Yum,” it rates a “Meh.”

4. According to India’s colonization plan, all colonial settlements are to
possess the no-longer used names of cities from antiquity as a way of
preserving culture. Delhi is believed to be the site of the city of Indraprastha,
capital of the Pandavas in the epic Mahabharata.

5. Anga, Assaka, Avanti, Chedi, Gandhara, Kashi, Kamboja, Kosala, Kuru,
Magadha, Malla, Matsya, Panchala, Surasena, Vriji, and Vatsa.
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#52
spitballing some ideas here, everything subject to debate & change...

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The First Interstellar Colonization Conference (*not* a Convention, there's a difference) convenes on Stellvia (buying out the entire hotel block along with one ring) in 202X. The goal of the conference is to hash out plans and policy for outworld colonies now that Fenspace is closing on mature enough to support it and terrestrial nations are looking on getting into the action. Attendees are reps from the Space Powers, Fen-aligned nations and Convention members with an interest (UFP, Soviets as a stand-alone, Artemis, Greenwood, NERV off the top of my head as the majors, probably others as well).

Some highlights:
* The Federation cedes partial control over Chiron and Arcadia to UNOOSA to help spur colonization.
** Arcadia colonization is limited to areas outside the known impact zone for the Arcadia Gate, to minimize looting.
* Greenwood & USGov enter into 25-year colonization agreement for Gwynedd.
* India reaffirms commitment to the Shamballa colony, pledges to move another 50,000 people there in the next five years.
* PRC announces plans to colonize $star_tbd{1} using only homegrown technology. This is the first time China has publicly endorsed anything handwavium-related since the Last Train Ride of 2009.
* And I'm sure you guys could come up with some more bullet points, I'm just trying to get the idea out. Smile

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skygirl: omg Mal you didn't
skygirl: twitter is lying again right?
skygirl: Mal come on you didn't do this
notclearedforthat: Que?
skygirl: you didn't tell the Aussie PM to fuck off on international TV, right?
skygirl: that's just a hallucination or trolls being trolls?
notclearedforthat: Well, no. I told him that the Soviet wasn't going to approve any of his plans to colonize the Citadel coast.
notclearedforthat: All in very clear and polite language.
notclearedforthat: And THEN, since the withered old racist didn't seem to get it, I used words he'd understand. To wit, "fuck off, we're full."
skygirl: oh god. why.
notclearedforthat: Because he was asking for it.
notclearedforthat: Because scooping up terrifed boat people & shipping them off to a concentration camp on another planet isn't colonization, it's next-level supervillainy.
notclearedforthat: And because he kept trying to push it knowing we'd never agree, because he thinks we owe him something.
skygirl: well when you put it like THAT

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Checkpoint Charlie (UV/BL Ceti)

The UV/BL Ceti system is a red dwarf binary about 8.7 light years away from Sol. Neither star is really capable of supporting life, as they're both dim red dwarfs orbiting close together and both are flare stars capable of sterilizing worlds completely at random. The system would be of only passing interest to astrophysicists except for the invention of the stutterwarp in 202X and resulting colonization boom.

By a quirk of interstellar geometry, UV/BL Ceti turned out to be right on the stutterwarp path for four our of five "core" colony worlds: Gallifrey, Vulcan, Shamballa and Gwynedd. Combined with the stutterwarp's mandatory post-jump cooldown period, a lot of traffic suddenly appeared in the system with nowhere to go for 48-72 hours. Sensing opportunity, entrepreneurs set out for UV/BL Ceti, located a suitable Luna-sized object and established the Checkpoint Charlie outpost, offering refreshment, entertainment and resupply for ships heading inward or outward...

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SITE DESIGNATION: TANIS
LOCATION: $lat, $long, Valinor (Z1Ret a.1)

DESCRIPTION:

Tanis is an overgrown ruin discovered on the surface of Valinor via photomapping done by the Third Expedition. The site is roughly ten to fifteen square kilometers in size, indicating a small town or outpost. Buildings within the site were carved from the native stone similar to buildings found in parts of Luna. Layout seems to be radial in nature, with ring paths connected by spokes radiating from the central building...

(...) The central building is still 95% intact, albiet covered with loess and ground cover. It also incorporates Gate Alloy Component #2 (skuldium) and possibly semi-inert handwavium into the building rock, indicating that this particular building was meant to endure beyond other structures at Tanis...

(...) Inside the central building is a large chamber approx. 20m in diameter and 30m high. The section of wall opposite the entrance is decorated with an elaborate set of glyphs (...) upon entering the chamber investigators discovered that handwavium based systems within the building were still functional and activated upon their arrival...
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#53
M Fnord Wrote:The First Interstellar Colonization Conference (*not* a Convention, there's a difference) convenes on Stellvia (buying out the entire hotel block along with one ring) in 202X.
Noah would want it to happen in 2025, to coincide with Eyrie making its one-way maiden flight to Zeta Tucanae.

"What, they're colonizing that useless system? They're welcome to it."
"They built a state-of-the-art hospital in that colony ship. They won't be alone for too long."
"Until the rest of us build facilities to match. Then what?"

(And then stutterwarp is invented and Eyrie actually does get some visitors, "just passing through" to more interesting locales.)
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

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#54
Quote:The section of wall opposite the entrance is decorated with an elaborate set of glyphs
"The computers still work!"
"Yup."
"The controls for the computers still work!"
"Yup."
"The screens are showing what you say looks like a language you recognize!"
"Yup."
"Then why can't you understand it?!"
"Because while the language all that is written in looks like Quenya, unless "pudding father to the 8th degree" means anything to you, I think we're going to have to look for another way of understanding the material."
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#55
dicking around with some more concepts while waiting for New Horizons AOS...

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SITE DESIGNATION: TANIS (continued)

(...) The chamber's contents can be organized into three broad groups. The first are the shields. There are 60 shields total, running along the walls between the entrance and the far side of the chamber, 30 to a side. The shields are all roughly 60cm across and are a variety of different shapes. Each one has an emblem, apparently composed of an enamel compound and protected from the elements by a thin layer of material similar to handwaved plexiglass. The emblems are again all different, though they appear to use the same form of script alibeit heavily stylized.

**HYPOTHESES: Right now we don't know what there are supposed to be or what they mean, exactly. Based on the effort the builders went to to make sure they survived intact, they put some import into them clearly. They could be the equivalent of flags or religious symbols, or advertising slogans for all we know.

Translation of the shields may be possible. The script in a very weird coincidence resembles tengwar(*) but without a syllabry or omnilingual translation is going to be a tough row to hoe. The stylization in each shield doesn't help either: imagine trying to translate the most impenetrable cursive script without knowing what each letter is supposed to look like. **

The second major discovery in the chamber is the plaque, or the stone map as the field team named it. The plaque is a slab of Valinorian basalt roughly 5m * 5m * 6cm mounted against the far wall of the chamber. It's inscribed with icons and glyphs resembling the Pioneer plaque, in that it seems to describe a way to set up a crude system of mathematics in order to provide context to the rest of the message. The rest of the message appears to be using astronomical guideposts to pinpoint five separate locations.

The third discovery is the holographic map. Activated when the field team first breached the chamber, the map is generated from projectors in the chamber roof and we believe controlled by a computer system safely buried under the floor. The map fills most of the chamber when activated, allowing researchers to walk into it and examine parts close-up. The control computer apparently maintains a near-real-time update of the map, based on checking known star locations in navigational databases against their locations in the map.

Multiple stars on the map have been marked out with specific icons of (as yet) unknown meaning.

**HYPOTHESES: The stone map is so much like the Pioneer plaque it could've come from Carl Sagan's team. It uses science to try and bridge an uncrossable cultural gap. It doesn't have any real information on the builders' species for whatever reason, but the intent seems pretty clear. The holographic map is far more complex and detailed but it seems to follow the same intent.

Our working hypothesis--which bears out through some hasty experimentation by the field team--is that the maps are supposed to lead to the same end for two different types of cultures. The holomap only activates when handwavium is present inside the map room, or at least when we clear all our gear out it shuts down, and sending in a "clean" researcher with strictly non-waved gear didn't reactivate it. If a spacefaring culture that didn't use handwavium came to Tanis, they'd find the stone map which (in theory) could be translated to show the five locations the builders thought were important. One of them is Zeta 1, we're pretty sure, since it's the zero point of the holomap. Whereas we, with our handwavium-based technology, get more information. Why precisely, we don't know. Yet.

Of interest, we think that the four non-Zeta 1 locations on the stone map are marked on the holomap with a specific icon. Checking against our maps, one of those icons rests on Sol's location. The implications are pretty heavy, but further data is required. **

((Note added x/x/20xx: "I think I've seen this movie. It didn't end well. --Mgt."))

(*) Note for deep archive: contact T. Estate for a records trawl. Probably jumping @ shadows but worth checking out to debunk for the tinfoil brigade.
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#56
This smells like 'ritual', which is of course the archaeologist's general standby argument for "We have no real idea WTF". Of course, we only have our own models to go on, but the general assumption is that if they go out into space they're going to be in some way like a culture that has existed on Earth at some stage - or at least been theorised about.

But think about it for a moment. This feels like a 2-tier society - one with waving priveleges and mundanes without. . So you have a system which enforces this by keeping the mundanes in the dark about the deep mysteries of the world, while those inducted into the elusinian mysteries of handwavium can sort of lord it over them, by using the magic to their own advantage. The temple-like setting also hints at some sort of religious motivation behind everything. What we could hypothesise then, is a cadre of priests who keep all the technological mysteries and knowledge of the world to themselves and a select nobility in order to secure their own powerbase.

Otherwise, there's no point in leaving a stone map behind since,clearly, the majority of spacefaring civilisations thus encountered have been, in some form, wavetech users. And physics is so stacked against it.

However, what's the point in keeping the 'wave a secret from them unless you feel you have a vested interest in them not having it.
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#57
You may be over-analyzing things there, or possibly attributing some behaviours to the Gatebuilders that they didn't have. Or you might not.

It should be possible to go FTL without handvavium. We have two references for this. First, there are dozens of examples of hardtech FTL drives described in the Whole Fenspace Catalog - while they might not work in our universe, we won't know that until we build the tools to build the tools to build one. Second, the crew of the Miranda didn't detect any handwavium in the Squidleighs's automated beacon - this hints that they managed FTL without the 'wave.

The stone map might simply be a backup in case something happens to the 'waved map. The 'waved map might only display in the presence of other handwavium if the system components don't last forever and need to be used sparingly in order to last millennia. Why waste their useful life by displaying the map to an empty room?

(A digression: Since we have the 'waved map that updates in real time and the stone map that doesn't, we should be able to determine the age of the stone map by comparing the system positions shown on it to the same system positions shown on the 'waved map. This might or might not produce some useful or interesting data.)
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them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

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#58
Mal, is HIP 11915 on the short list of destinations? If not, maybe it should be.
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"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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#59
It's certainly something worth checking out in the long run, though I'd have to look at my database to see if it's a candidate for the Tanis maps. Lot of stars out there, not all of them are located on the map.
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#60
in the meantime, some planets...

robkelk Wrote:more interesting locales
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The Zeta Tucanae system was first charted in 2015 by the Artemis Foundation, at the behest of their primary shareholder Stellvia Corporation. The survey discovered ten planets and sixteen dwarf planets, the innermost four being rocky planets in similar configuration to Sol. One of these worlds was naturally habitable, with another being suitable for terraforming in the long term.

Zeta Tucanae IV was the only habitable planet discovered during the survey. It has an orbital period of 456.9 standard Earth days and a local day of 19.59 hours. The surface gravity is .993 Gs, close enough to Earth-normal as to be undetectable by humans. Sea-level air pressure is 97% of terrestrial pressure. The planet has an axial tilt of 30 degrees and the orbital eccentricity is enough to cause noticable seasonable variation. (Or would, save for the environmental issues discussed below.) Zet Tuc IV has one moon, a body roughly 150% Luna-sized orbiting at a distance of 240,000 km; tidal forces are comparatively much stronger than on Earth.

Zet Tuc IV was named Thule by the discoverers for the very impressive extent of its polar caps. While not completely frozen over like New Alaska or similar iceworlds discovered around red and brown dwarf stars, Thule is covered with ice all the way down to the tropical latitudes. Based on core samples taken during the first and second Zeta Tucanae expeditions, the Thulian ice age has been underway for the last six million years. Radar and ice-penetrating lidar surveys indicated that the planet has two supercontinents situated over the poles with Thule's ocean Okeanos lying between them. The fact that Okeanos has uninterrupted currents running through the equator is likely key to the planet's habitability--the heat transfer keeps the ice at bay and allows the tropical coastlines a reasonably temperate climate.

Life on Thule is somewhat primitive, a consequence of the extended ice age. With much of the planet's water locked up in ice, there is little cloud cover and less precipitation--the skies of Thule are cloudless more often than not, and much of the temperate inland is desert. Only in places where glacial runoff collects into rivers is there much in the way of surface life, mostly consisting of hardy plants with some animals adapted to the constant cold. The largest land animal discovered by explorers is the Thulian ice-weasel, a quadraped dinosauroid that lives in and around the glacial rivers.

Thule's sea life is far better developed. While explorers have not yet seen the full picture, the first expedition noted several groups of ceteacianoid animals in coastal waters, along with surprisingly large schools of fish and underwater plantlife resembling kelp forests in the shallows. The wide and comparatively warm channel of Okeanos, combined with sediment transfer from the glacial plains, keeps the ocean quite well-stocked with life.

The initial Artemis Foundation survey noted much of this, then departed the system in 2016. Followup expeditions--the United Federation of Planets in 2017, then Artemis again in 2018 and 2020--continued with further in-depth surveys of the system. As an M-class world with a functional and (reasonably) human-supporting ecosystem the Thule system was put on the long list of colonization prospects, though its near-permanent ice age meant it was further down the list than others. In the 2025 UN-Convention conference on exosolar colonization, Stellvia Corporation made a surprising announcement: they not only intended to colonize Thule, they had already sent a ship out to do it.

The Chartered Thule Company, a Stellvia subsidiary with a charter from the kingdom of Monaco of all places, set out on the colony ship Eyrie (an Island-class ship developed by Greenwood) with 2,500 colonists the week before the conference began. The corporation's motive for colonizing Thule was and remains unclear, but Stellvia and the CTC seem to be adamant on making the project work. "This is not another Darien Scheme," was the constant (and sometimes heated) refrain from upper management during the conference and long afterwards. Indeed, Stellvia continues to accept new colonists for transfer to Eyrie and the surface settlement of Mandeville on a regular basis.

"Oh give me a home
Where the ice weasels roam..."
~ Unofficial Chartered Thule Company anthem


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Yushan is the third planet in the Sigma Draconis system. It has an orbital period of 188 Earth days and a local day of 28 hours. Surface gravity is slightly higher than Earth's (1.12 Gs) and sea-level air pressure is also slightly higher (1.21 times terrestrial pressure). Yushan's axial tilt is 18 degrees and the orbit is highly circular, making it a world with milder seasons than Earth. It has two moons, one roughly the size of Ceres and one a little larger than Luna.

At the current stage of the planet's evolution, Yushan has a number of small continental rafts floating on a ocean slightly smaller than Earth's, all of which are surprisingly flat compared to other known M-class planets. This lack of high mountains (no peak on Yushan reaches higher than 3,000 meters) allows warm air to circulate freely around the entire planet, keeping it pleasantly tropical even at the poles and making Yushan a truly great rarity among the explored worlds: a living cliche, the "jungle planet."

Yushan's biosphere is dominated by a rainforest ecosystem, punctuated here and there by the occasional grassland. Much of the forest is dominated by trees similar to sequoia or Gallifreyan silverleafs, forming dense canopies under which a vertical ecosystem flourishes. Some large life has been spotted, though so far only at a distance. Most animals have been varities of avianoid like the jade pterodactyl, a parrot-sized insectivore that seems ubiquitous whereever explorers travel on Yushan.

The Sigma Draconis system was first surveyed in 2010 by the Empire of Jurai, an early-adopter otaku group. The Juraians noted the presence of life in the system, then moved on from there. The initial explorers made no move to colonize the system, preferring instead to develop in glorious isolation at the Earth-Luna L5 cluster. While the Sigma Draconis system was known to be life-bearing from 2010 onward, pressures on the Solar nations in general and the Juraians extreme lack of interest in releasing the expedition logs pushed the planets out of the general mainstream until 2025.

The People's Republic of China had for the longest time ignored the handwavium age to the best of their ability. Officially the Chinese government ignored the Convention and its antics when they didn't impact the Chinese mainland, or decried them when they did (such as the infamous Last Train Ride of 2009). In the background however, the PRC undertook an ambitious plan to not only research handwavium, but to master it on levels even the Fen hadn't managed. This particular end proved a failure; the Chinese researchers gained no deeper insights into handwavium's mysteries than anyone else. The spin-offs of this program however promoted the use of home-grown handwavium products in Chinese society. Of particular interest was expanding Chinese presence offworld. The Chinese had embassies at Luna, Phobos and Callisto as well as several Fen-built stations in low orbit, but these were considered tokens at best by the outside world.

The 2025 exosolar conference is where much of this changed. The Chinese delegation announced their intentions to settle the Sigma Draconis system using the original Juraian survey as a guide--having gotten their hands on it by agreeing to help fund the expansion of Tsunami Station--and were going to do it with home-grown handwavium technology...

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#61
I had pictured Thule as something more like Europa - but I can work with this, too. Eyrie will just have to bring some purple saxifrage in the terraforming kit... EDIT: and perhaps ask Artemis whether they want to send Gjøa to the Zeta Tucanae system.
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the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

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#62
I would expect Europa to be a bit slow in moving out (and when they do it, together with some good friends), but on the other side they have already good connections to some Fen factions through their station at Saturn.
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M Fnord Wrote:Zet Tuc IV was named Thule by the discoverers for the very impressive extent of its polar caps. While not completely frozen over like New Alaska or similar iceworlds discovered around red and brown dwarf stars, Thule is covered with ice all the way down to the tropical latitudes. Based on core samples taken during the first and second Zeta Tucanae expeditions, the Thulian ice age has been underway for the last six million years. Radar and ice-penetrating lidar surveys indicated that the planet has two supercontinents situated over the poles with Thule's ocean Okeanos lying between them. The fact that Okeanos has uninterrupted currents running through the equator is likely key to the planet's habitability--the heat transfer keeps the ice at bay and allows the tropical coastlines a reasonably temperate climate.

Back in the 1960s, Russian climatologist Mikhail Budyko devised a model of Earth's climate that predicted that, among other things, should the Earth's climate cool enough that the ice sheets reach the tropics, the growth of the sheets would enter an unstoppable runaway effect and cover the Earth down to the Equator. There's also evidence that Earth may have indeed completely frozen over at one point or another (called "Snowball/Slushball Earth"; the terms "snowball" and "slushball" differentiating interpretations suggesting either a completely frozen "snowball" Earth or a "slushball" Earth with areas of still-liquid water at the surface).

From the looks of it, it sounds as though Thule may be one decently-sized climatological upset/disaster away from becoming a snowball world itself.
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#64
Still spitballing, a few more things:
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Excerpt from 2025 Convention programming guide:

REEXAMINING THE PRIME DIRECTIVE -- (Non-legislative panel discussion) With the new interest in interstellar exploration, eventually we're going to meet aliens less technologically advanced than we are. How will we interact with them? Starfleet's Prime Directive is the traditional rule, but how useful is it really in the real world? How could we change it for the better, or for the worse? Join our panel of Starfleet officers, diplomats and professional deep-space explorers for a discussion on the flaws and strengths of the Prime Directive.

CONVENTION RESOLUTION #1412: REGULATION AND MANAGEMENT OF INTERSTELLAR COLONIES -- (Legislative session, open) The treaties and agreements proposed at the Stellvia Conference will undergo debate and voting at this session. Voting members are requested to attend; non-voting members will be allowed to comment before the vote.

I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS ALIENS, BUT... -- (Non-legislative presentation) We've found evidence that precursor races have been busy in our galactic neighborhood within the lifetime of our species. We even have some evidence that they stopped by Earth for raw genetic materials. So why haven't we found traces in our solar system? Tsoukalos Institute researcher Kimiko Garvin presents the case for precursor artifacts on Earth and elsewhere in Fenspace.
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Posted by: mstarling

> REEXAMINING THE PRIME DIRECTIVE
Good to see someone with brains is going to take a look at this. Roddenberry's Law is shite, we need a more nuanced understanding of how to deal with primitive societies beyond "stay the eff away and let them do their own thing", especially when that results in morally inacceptable -crap- like "Pen Pals" or "Symbiosis".
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Posted by: FnordFnordFnord

To be fair, this panel's the first public airing of a debate that's been going since, hell, at least since Miranda ran into the Squidleighs at Contact Point. There's still a few hardline purists out there, but they're mostly pundits, dipshits or redditors (but I repeat myself). The thorny questions show up when we talk about getting entangled beyond simple disaster management -- it's all well and good to move dinosaur-killers out of the path of the Iron Age empire, but should we "civilize" that empire because Princess Whatsername flashed her boobs at the captain? What kind of damage do we do to a people if we force 'em to be like us out of a sense of self-righteousness? Where does "only trying to help" end and "white man's burden" begin?

This is going to be a fun panel, no question.
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[table]
Groombridge 34
Stellar characteristics
Constellation
Andromeda
Right ascension (Epoch J2000)
00h 18m 22.89s
Declination (Epoch J2000)
+44° 01' 22.6?
Spectral type
M1.5V + M3.5V
Distance from Sol
11.70 ± 0.03 ly
(3.587 ± 0.010 pc)
Other designations
ADS 246 A, Gliese 15, GX/GQ Andromedae, BD +43°44, GCTP 49, GJ
15 A/B, Gi 171-047/171-048, HD 1326, HIP 1475, LHS 3/4, LTT 10108/10109, LFT
31/32, SAO 36248, Vys 085 A/B
Planets
Meru (G 34 A I)

Thuvaraiyam Pathi (G 34 A II)Shamballa (G 34 A III)

Kumari Kandam (G 34 A IV)

Mughal (G 34 A V)
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