Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Vista 64 and CoX
Vista 64 and CoX
#1
Anyone know why the updater for CoX sits at 'Checking Updater" in my Vista 64 machine, and what I must do to fix it?
Reply
 
#2
Do you have User Account Control (UAC) on, and if so, are you running CohUpdater as Admin?
---

The Master said: "It is all in vain! I have never yet seen a man who can perceive his own faults and bring the charge home against himself."

>Analects: Book V, Chaper XXVI
Reply
 
#3
Fuck Vista.
===========

===============================================
"V, did you do something foolish?"
"Yes, and it was glorious."
Reply
 
#4
See, until I reinstalled PSO the other night, I'd never really had a problem with Vista.
Reply
 
#5
What Ankh said.

What Valles said.

I'll add, though, that you also may need to tweak firewall permissions. I've noticed that instead of being polite and firmly denying programs that
request internet access, Vista tends to route them to la-la land, and they will sit there forever patiently waiting instead of coming back and telling you they
can't connect to whatever it is they're trying to connect to.

--sofaspud
--"Listening to your kid is the audio equivalent of a Salvador Dali painting, Spud." --OpMegs
Reply
 
#6
And see, I saw "Vista 64" and thought "why do they have a Vista OS for the Nintendo 64?" Obviously, my mind was not entirely running at the
time...
---
"Oh, silver blade, forged in the depths of the beyond. Heed my summons and purge those who stand in my way. Lay
waste."
Reply
 
#7
Check here: CoH Technical Forum

Specifically this thread... VISTA Issues/Fixes Compilation: Updated
October 12

The information you need should be at the being parts of the the thread, althou there is something about UAC and disabling the for specific applications
towards the end.

Or if I'm feeling polite and civil minded like and browse through the thread to the end, I could also point you to this: http://cityofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/Windows_Vista

And no I won't start commenting about how you wouldn't have this problem if you weren't using Vista....

Shader
Reply
 
#8
Wow, such fun Vitriole.

a) It's a work PC, I don't have much choice here.

b) What am I supposed to use, XP 64-bit? Excuse me while I snort.

c) UAC is turned off, and I'm running as admin.
Reply
 
#9
Quote:b) What am I supposed to use, XP 64-bit? Excuse me while I snort.

I'd snark something about "a real OS, like Windows 2000, or Linux", but like you said, it's a work PC.
--
Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
Reply
 
#10
In defense of Vista, once you've tweaked it...and I made sure to damn well read all the available documentation on the CoX forums...it runs fine. My new
laptop uses Vista 32-bit, and it being a laptop, I didn't want to mess with that unless I absolutely had to. But so far - and it's been a few months -
I haven't experienced any difficulties with CoX, at all, and I run it in windowed mode.

'course because I've not experienced any issues, I can't help you here...hn. I presume you're installing to a non-Windows OS drive? Are you
trying to download the entire client, or just patching an install (or transfer of files from another machine) you've already done?
-- Acyl
Reply
 
#11
Mmm. I may end up with a new Mac soon. Anyone have experience installing and running CoH on one?
--
Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
Reply
 
#12
I wasn't aware of a client for the mac (but if there is one, I'll be all over that like ugly on a naked mole rat). For my CoX fix on my laptop I just
used bootcamp to install an XP partition. So I have no advice on the merits or failures of parralells or other emulation software.
-Terry
-----
"so listen up boy, or pornography starring your mother will be the second worst thing to happen to you today"
TF2: Spy
Reply
 
#13
There isn't. Some people have used Wine or the like to get it running, though.
--
Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
Reply
 
#14
I've been playing City of Heroes on an iMac and a MacBook Pro since Boot Camp was in beta, and it's worked great.

You need an Intel based Mac running Leopard (OS X 10.5). Boot Camp is included with the OS. Windows is not, so you'll need your own CD, which must be XP
Service Pack 2 or newer.

The Boot Camp Assistant is in the Utilities folder (which is in Applications). It will walk you through the process printing the instructions (if you want),
burning a CD containing the Apple hardware drivers and software for Windows, and partitioning the HD. Once that's done, you stick the Windows CD in and
boot from it. From there, it's a standard, native Windows install and patch, followed by installing the Apple drivers from the CD you burned. Install City
of Heroes and you're ready to play. You can change the default boot partition from either OS, or select one on the fly by holding down the Option key
during startup.

I haven't tried the most recent versions of Parallels, VMware Fusion, WINE or the like. Last time I did try them, they were getting close, but didn't
quite work, but Direct X support has been improving. I also haven't tried Vista with Boot Camp yet, but it's supposed to run fine (or even faster than
XP) if you have enough RAM.
Reply
 
#15
Mrrr. Don't want to have to actually buy a copy of XP... won't it work with Windows 2000?
--
Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
Reply
 
#16
It might, but I'd suspect you'd have to have a version of Win2k with the latest Service Packs slipstreamed in at the least.
Reply
 
#17
The one suggestion I will have if you are buying an apple:

Don't max out the options at the apple store.

Apple makes horrendous margins on the ram.

After a quick browse of the online store, it looks like they charge between $75 and $150 for ram upgrades.

You can get 2x2GB for ~$66 elsewhere online.

And, depending on your comfort with swapping out hardware, the same could be said for the hard drive.*

newegg has 320GB 5400RPM laptop SATA drives (Samsung & Toshiba) for $80

Apple charges $100 to upgrade to the 160GB version.

I don't mean to bash on apple (I've used them all my life), they make great computers. But they also cater towards the kind of people who would never
think of opening the thing up.

Be smart about where you buy your upgrades from and you can save few hundred dollars.

* one thing to keep in mind about the hard drive (especially in the laptops): faster hard drives run hotter. And the enclosures may not be able to syphon off
all the heat that a 7200RPM hard drive puts out.
-Terry
-----
"so listen up boy, or pornography starring your mother will be the second worst thing to happen to you today"
TF2: Spy
Reply
 
#18
Gen and @Brain Thief, as well as @vyperpunk run CoH in linux using Cedega
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies
Reply
 
#19
I'm not saying Windows 2000 is impossible, but it's not supported. The drivers and installers are written for XP (SP2) or Vista. You can't buy XP
anyway, unless you're getting it pre-installed with 'downgrade rights' on new Vista Business or Vista Ultimate PC. And those disks probably
won't work. So unless you have an unused XP disk lying around somewhere, or know someone who does, Microsoft makes it Vista or the highway.

sweno's makes a good point about the RAM; we frequently buy RAM from Crucial or some other vendor... just mind how many slots the Mac has so you don't
unintentionally end up discarding memory to upgrade. Also, not sure about the latest models, but replacing the hard drive on some of the laptops is like
cracking a safe. Good times.

I wonder if Cedega would run under OS X. It'd be nice not to have to reboot. For what it's worth, CodeWeavers Crossover claims to run City of Heroes on
both OS X and Linux. But I haven't tried that either.
Reply
 
#20
In defense of my previous comments...

In pointing to the Wiki article I was quoting/paraphrasing the thread...

And regarding the virtues of the usage of Microsoft products, Linux, Mac or a.k.a. the O.S. wars.... I live in a household of 2.5* computer geeks and am becoming one myself. Its gets bashed around the table once or twice a month and well as the joke goes, the day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they make vacuum cleaners. Hence my comment. Also I had just come from a frustrating head banging session of trying to get a LEGO game to run on my sister's Quad core XP 64bit system.

(*Note: That figure does not include myself (a geek in training). It consists of 2 different programmers (sorry Software Engineers... sorry, "I'm a  Bachelor of Information Technology: Computer Systems and Bachelor of Engineering Software Engineering" and a "I'm a programmer or a coder... or if you push it a Software Engineer") with vastly different styles and a self taught programmer/geek/system builder (electrical engineer) (the 0.5))

Shader
Reply
 
#21
I work in tech support. We spell 'Microsoft' Juliet-Oscar-Baker Sierra-Echo-Charlie-Uniform-Romeo-India-Tango-Yankee.
--
Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
Reply
 
#22
Fairly recently, I had to rebuild my compy. XP pro, SP2 was the order of the day. Also fairly recently, my father got a new compy. Vista 32 it is! In the same
time frame, I built up 3 machines for the Valley House (@DJ w00t, @Brain Thief, @Vyperpunk), and Linux went on those machines (Ubuntu).

My conclusion, after working intimately with all three OSen, is 'I'm going the fuck outside, screw this bullshit'.

There's not a single OS that's worth a good goddamn, in my opinion. You just pick your poison, and attempt to get the shambling heap of necrocode to
work for you, whether you're using Linux or XP or Vista, or just throwing bits at a CRT to see if they stick.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies
Reply
 
#23
I know someone who runs a Linux partition on their Mac ... and then a simulated Windows XP environment of some kind in Linux ... to play CoX.

This works. In fact she runs smoother than most people. She insists there's some actual technical advantage to doing it this way, but damned if I can
remember the details.
-- Acyl
Reply
 
#24
Quote: Acyl wrote:

I know someone who runs a Linux partition on their Mac ... and then a simulated Windows XP environment of some kind in Linux ... to play CoX.




This works. In fact she runs smoother than most people. She insists there's some actual technical advantage to doing it this way, but damned if I can
remember the details.
Basically, WINE is translating the Windows system calls the CoH client makes into the calls the Linux system understands. Since Linux has a
generally much lower system overhead than Windows, this uses much fewer system resources. Far more efficient than an emulator.
--
Sucrose Octanitrate.
Proof positive that with sufficient motivation, you can make anything explode.
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)