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I've got way too much on my plate already...
I've got way too much on my plate already...
#1
...I don't need to start imagining Doug getting stuck in Lost. Even if his response to the threat against Kate last night would be unspeakably cool...


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Not even a Stagger? (shady character in an alleyway) Just one little chapter, it won't hurt'cha. Come on, we both know ya want to... (/sciaa)

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No, really, no. For one thing it's a live franchise. Second, it has an arc-based storyline, if I interpreted what the writers/producers said on the DVD extras correctly, and I'd rather have the advantage of hindsight than the risk of prediction.
But I can't help but envision how some things would go. Walt would be just blown away, Locke would serenely accept Doug, Jack would be freaked out of his skull. And I've got a cool idea for combining fire powers and beach sand to make crude glass shelters, kinda like igloos...
And as for the scene from the 18th's episode? Two words: "Freeze Frame".

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I need to start buying this series.Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979
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You can always do what we did, K, and rent from Blockbuster if that's an option in your area. It'll save you about 50% of the cost, unless you want to retain the disks for rewatching. (Definitely an option, as it is one of those shows that embeds subtle clues and details way, way before they become plot-critical.)

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_exactly_. And, I want to own them in all their shiny case-ness with the papers and the labels.
that's why DVD piracy will always be a niche market - the MPAA makes better cases and labels... *EG*Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979
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And I've got a cool idea for combining fire powers and beach sand to make crude glass shelters, kinda like igloos...
Now that you mention it, I can picture the engineering principles involved, and am going to steal the idea for Blue Skies, Blue Water. If you don't mind, that is...
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Go right ahead. If you want, you can add a throwaway comment about Lost just for giggles.
My idea, just in case it differs from yours, was to build a solid sand igloo shape, then coat that with a mix of sand, potash (sodium carbonate) and lime -- the ingredients of glass. Doug would then use a fire song and pretty much engulf the thing in flame and pump it up to the fusing point. It would happen so fast that if properly constructed it wouldn't have time to "slump"... and if Doug managed to control the heat and "cook time" properly, he might even be able to turn it into a reasonable facsimile of the original Corning Ware pyroceram material -- practically-unbreakable opaque white glass.
(Tangent: the Corning Ware you can buy today is not the true Corning Ware. The stuff is so tough that after 50 years or so Corning saturated the market and sales declined below profitable levels. They sold the trademark to some other company which sells stoneware or something under the name now.)
Anyway, after it cools, you dig out the sand inside and voila -- one glass hut. Giving it some thought, I'd probably start the form a couple feet below ground, with a little "spread" at the bottom to provide an anchor in the sand. I can't see how you could make a glass floor, though, at least not at the same time.

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Glass igloos make poached people.
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Its a spiffy idea... but won't that cause blindness or at least slow poaching of people inside the things when the sun gets involved?
The brillance of the igloo design is that it stores heat so well... in the artic. Granted its glass and not slow, so the effect won't be as great.. but in the day sweat will evaporate and stick to the ceiling and at night it will condense and rain inside for a while. They are living in the tropics... its hot enough their already.
The smell with be lethal in a few days.
Granted its concave and not convex, so you won't be sleeping inside a solar laser... but its not going be a basically unventalated sweat box.
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Granted its concave and not convex, so you won't be sleeping inside a solar laser... but its not going be a basically unventalated sweat box.
On the other hand, with a proper chimney, you could probably make a pretty good smoker out of it. Of course (drawing this back to Blue Water), Nadia being the militant vegetarian that she is would throw an absolute fit at the concept of smoking pork/fish/fowl. Ebony the Black Dragon
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Its a spiffy idea... but won't that cause blindness or at least slow poaching of people inside the things when the sun gets involved?
Well, if he is successful at making pyroceram, it's opaque and white -- it'll reflect most of that light/heat away.
If he can only make standard glass, you've got a seriously good point.

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if you can only make standard glass, it's only a matter of piling more sand on the structure after it's cooled. Sand itself does a decent job of reflecting heat.
Leave a small circle at the top open for light and you have a decent shelter.-Terry
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Out of idle curiousity, what happens when you just flat out melt sand?Wire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979
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I'm dusting off chem. knowledge from 6 years ago, so this may be wrong. But from what I remember it forms a rather brittle 'glass' that is opaque. For natural examples of such see Fulgurites.
but with sufficient practice it should be possible to get something that is less of a danger than staying in the elements (thickness and even cooling would be the two most important factors from what I can tell).-Terry
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You can get decent glass from pure silica (only using sand, no added fluxes like the variouls carbonates). However, pure silica has a very high melting point and has a much narrower workability range than a normal glass composition. You are unlikely to get good results simply because it is more difficult to do. There is no fundamental reason why you can't make pure silica glass.
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Hrm.
well bugger, I can't find the information I'm hunting for. I was going to suggest a power song to _generate_ that sort of hightemp.
'course, there's always black hole sun. Supercompacted gravity-fused sand bricks wheeeeeeeee.
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'course, there's always black hole sun. Supercompacted gravity-fused sand bricks wheeeeeeeee.
That would either make it unmovable and cause it to sink into the earth... or make it so small it'd be useless and in a pit in the bedrock. That and having to explain what he just did to those guys would be amusing... My first question would be 'What is a 'black hole sun' and how can it do that?' Its also a defensive song, minus a mana node.
Can Doug's 'I'll Play For You', be used on non-intelligent life? If it can he could stuff/surround the sand igloo with rotting vegitation and use Incubus' "Pardon me". That will probably go wrong once the dead vegitation burns off though. (It'd have to be full of something to keep it from colapsing with a smoke hole in it... which would kill its effectiveness in a rainstorm.)
Now, I've got this idea for Doug repeatedly failing to make the sand igloo work and years later an exploritory team discovering them and wondering what happened here. What are these things? How and why were they made?
An entire civilization is invented repeatedly... until they find someones diary explaining that an extra-dimensional mage/engineer was trying to make a glass/sand igloo and failing repeated while waiting to get rescued. At which point the scientific comunity writes that off as 'stupid', and goes back to create a religion based on sand/glass igloos.
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That would either make it unmovable and cause it to sink into the earth... or make it so small it'd be useless and in a pit in the bedrock.
I think you're misunderstanding the suggestion -- which is to use gravity to pressure-fuse individual blocks from sand. Of course doing that with a rapidly-whirling quantum black hole might be hard...
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That and having to explain what he just did to those guys would be amusing...
Oh, the explanations are the fun part, as far as I'm concerned.
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Its also a defensive song, minus a mana node.
Given the other things on that damned island, I don't think a fair-sized node -- or at least a hefty ley line -- is all that unlikely.
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Can Doug's 'I'll Play For You', be used on non-intelligent life?
"I'll Play For You" requires nothing of its subject -- all it does is allow an Area of Effect song to be used instead on a single target without any slopover.
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At which point the scientific comunity writes that off as 'stupid', and goes back to create a religion based on sand/glass igloos.

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