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All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-01-2019

Starting new thread.  Previous thread is here.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-01-2019

I should have waited a few hours and started with content... Kuma is going to drive me nuts, between his/her absolutely abysmal writing skills but high productivity, and my own OCD regarding fixing bad writing on the wiki. I do not have the time needed to fix everything wrong with everything Kuma posts, and I am yea-close to spazzing out over it.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - LulzKiller - 11-02-2019

What's the consensus if I was to get a namechange on Miraheze?


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-02-2019

A UserID change? It's your account, do what you want with it.

A wiki name change? We've got a lot of identity tied up with "All The Tropes" - I'd hesitate to throw it away.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - LulzKiller - 11-02-2019

User (ofc)


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-03-2019

"If you donate, let us know how you want to be credited for the donation."

My Miraheze userID will do.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-11-2019

Bug report: If you click on "Dark mode", green links go back to being blue.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-11-2019

"Conversational Troping" is when characters talk about tropes.

What's the trope where the conversation is the trope? (I want to add "Answers to The Name of God" to it.)


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-11-2019

I do not believe we have a trope or category like that. Time to come up with a name!


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-11-2019

"Conversation as a Trope", perhaps?

"Stock Exchanges" to match "Stock Phrases"? ... No, too much confusion with a bourse.

EDIT: And, yes, a category makes sense for this.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-11-2019

"Speaking of Tropes"?

Nah, that's more like Conversational Troping.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Labster - 11-11-2019

Or simply Category:Conversations.  Either way, I think what you want should inherit from both Category:Scenes and Category:Dialogue; the latter has a bunch of tropes that should be moved into the subcategory, like:
Breaking Bad News Gently
Easily-Overheard Conversation
Duck Season! Rabbit Season!
Everyone Gets Their Turn (no examples here)
Just Between You and Me
Conversational Troping (the meta-example)
Seinfeldian Conversation
Scheherazade Gambit

Contrast with Category:Speeches and Monologues.  I'm starting to wonder if the whole of Dialogue should be a container category, but I'm not yet sure what the subcategories would be.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-11-2019

Look at me, opening up a discussion I didn't expect... again.

Maybe we should move this to the ATT forums so that everybody can take part.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-12-2019

Ping Bob for this post - I could answer it myself, but not until tonight.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-12-2019

Gah. I've been trying to deal with Kuma as little as possible because (s)he sets off my grammar OCD so strongly.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-12-2019

Huh.  Never saw this error before:

Quote:Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. For more information on this error please check out our twitter page (Twitter.com/Miraheze) or contact the system administrators by connecting to #miraheze on irc.freenode.net
(Cannot access the database: Cannot access the database: Unknown error (mediawiki-internal-db-master.miraheze.org))

This all by itself on a blank white page.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-12-2019

(11-12-2019, 08:29 AM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: Gah.  I've been trying to deal with Kuma as little as possible because (s)he sets off my grammar OCD so strongly.

No worries - I found a moment at lunchtime.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-13-2019

Here's a pair of almost duplicate files... which are probably close enough to duplicate that I suspect Fair Use would only let us keep one of them.

Which one are we keeping: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/File:Spideykiss.jpg or https://allthetropes.org/wiki/File:Spider-Man_kiss_445.jpg ? Which one is closer to what the frame in the film looks like? (No, I don't own a copy to pop into the player and go look.)


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-14-2019

Spideykiss.jpg is just a slightly enlarged crop of Spider-Man_kiss_445.jpg. Keep Spider-Man_kiss_445.jpg.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-14-2019

Thanks. Spideykiss.jpg is now gone.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-14-2019

<takes off "Ultimate Authority" hat and returns to civilian life>


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Bob Schroeck - 11-16-2019

Two things, tonight:

One, God help me, I am going to reach through my monitor and throttle Kuma.

Two, Whyinhell is our logo missing?


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - robkelk - 11-16-2019

Can't help you with the first.

As for the second... I see the logo just fine. But I recall that I didn't when Privacy Badger set itself to stop loading third-party trackers on the wiki. Check your anti-virus settings - something might be set to be too aggressive, giving you false positives on image loading on the wiki.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Labster - 11-17-2019

You're seeing the logo fine because it's in cache; it's on static-temp but not on static. Moving to a new file server has taken some time.


RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XV - Labster - 11-17-2019

The move to the new file server was completed a couple hours ago for all wikis; let me know if you have any problems with missing images still.