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Does this make sense? - Dartz - 01-13-2011 Right, so a few people know that SI fic I've been mucking around with. Anyway, I've been doing a few things with it (based on a video posted in the general discussion and the sum of quite a few things I've read). I finally figured out how to put some of the stuff I'd been thinking about down. There's also a few hints about what Noriko *is* in there. (Beyond the original concept which was a bit 'Cheeky Angel') It's a bit gakky, and definitely unfinished, but well... I was wondering what a people thought. Quote:“I’m Kawaoru.” Kawaoru said. “All of him.” It also follows that Third Impact is some attempt to crash all of Mankind up to a Fifth Dimensional awareness by destroying Individuality... and why it usually fails. Actually... a lot of stuff about the series starts to make more sense when you think about it like this. Dead Sea Scrolls are prophecies based on some nutbars recollection of a previous cycle, and Seele's referring to TI as the apotheosis of mankind. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Black Aeronaut - 01-13-2011 So essentially it's all one ginormous time loop? Ouch. - HoagieOfDoom - 01-14-2011 Needs some proofing, but other than that me likey. - Dartz - 01-14-2011 blackaeronaut Wrote:So essentially it's all one ginormous time loop? Ouch. Pretty much. Most of those in the Loop aren't aware of it.... like that TNG episode where the Enteprise kept blowing up. Or Haruhi. HoagieOfDoom Wrote:Needs some proofing, but other than that me likey. Thanks. I know it's rough... but it should be cleaned/cleared up whenever it's included sometime in the future. So long as it doesn't sound so ridiculous peoples brains are running out their nostrils There's also the question of just how Pen-Pen is able to read the newspaper. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - WengFook - 01-14-2011 I think I understand the gist of it. Its kinda like if the events of Evangelion are a time loop, and every viewing around the world of the NGE anime was a seperate time loop, where the events happen as we know them and in a neighbouring parallel dimension a different set of events that mirrors our Evangelion about say 99% and that was mirrored by another parallel dimension ad infinity, and the Angels are aware of every single loop and deviation, we would get whats being described in the scene described above. _________________________________ Take Your Candle, Go Light Your World. - Necratoid - 01-14-2011 Quote:“Lilin perceive three dimensions but are fundamentally Fifth Dimensional creatures. The fruit of your knowledge allows you to perceive the universe in a way that causes the timeline to exist as perceived. The lilin soul is a functional part of the three dimensional reality, the perception of which gives it form.”This is all messed up... first Lilim are four dimensional beings relative to their own frame of reference.... Humans can perceive the flow of time after all. A stick man that can move around is 3 dimensional, those 3 just happen to be length, width and time as the third rather than depth. A dot can also be a two dimensional being if it can also perceive time... just in that case it has nothing changing to perceive. A literal perfect existence as it can't be improved further... unless you make it no longer a one dimensional being. Nirvana is to become as the dot. Also, its not actually a true time loop... its more insidious. Humans aren't lilum, lilum were human though. There is only 3rd impact... a dozen or a million times or something over. Humanity died on the day Adam was released. The Blast through the planet off axis just enough so that seasons stopped. The general misery level keeps the lilum from noticing the stars have moved. The think its the day after 3rd Impact and try and rebuild. The Earth is in disrepair (exploding contient and all)... time to pull humanity up by its boot straps. Only, its not quite true. Its just that everything is around 15 years older than last time. The Geofront is entirely man made. Its taken a ginormous number of cycles to make... but all the digging, and the armour and skeletons of Eva are works of progress. The lilum are now fighting back... After.dozens of attempts they've managed to actually build a working group of weapons. Evagelions. With it they are taking humanity back one soul or so at a time. The reason 'Angels' are now huge is an arms race. The Dead Sea Scrolls are computerized records of the cycles. Keele is a cyborg as the metal contains his humanity.in the lilum shell. The magi are 3 who are human again dodging the cycle. Its why they send an angel just to kill the magi. The 'Angels' hugeness is the result of half of humanity being absorbed. The Berserk mode on Eva 01 is it eating parts of the 'Angels' so that it can take back the human souls of the lilum that make it up. The absorbed are in dot mode. They are in the white space. they know nothing and everything all at once. The 'Angels' are elsewhee, elsewhen the attack monsters are but harvesting avatars. Lillith had a full body, but has been staked for long enough that the souls of that body are breaking free... explaining all those little legs. The avatars are ever changing as more souls means moree power. The whole thing is with the End of Evangelion and lanching the Eva into space is because that puts the reclaimed souls out of reach. Shinji keeeps respawning but has had as many different moms as their are Eva 01s in the space fleet. There were actually 30 or more 'Angels' at one point. much weaker ones now. Basically a disturbing number of new game plus modes rather than a time loop. the lilum just kept their inventory... the greater one their levels. Every time 3rd Impact resets a few less people bother to come back... NERV and SEELE are counter harvesting. If they can cause enough damage they will get a shot at the avatar's controlers. They've offed half the starting 'Angel's' number. Kawaoru is apparently sick of the game. Patern regonition. A cumulative Shinji would end thiis so much faster. At least that is my first impression. - Bob Schroeck - 01-14-2011 Quote:Most of those in the Loop aren't aware of it.... like that TNG episode where the Enteprise kept blowing up. Or Haruhi.So, as soon as Shinji wants to do his homework... Pretty good, Dartz, except as Necratoid points out, humans live in three physical dimensions and one time dimension, so we're technically four-dimensional. -- Bob --------- Then the horns kicked in... ...and my shoes began to squeak. - Dartz - 01-15-2011 I understand the point about 4 dimensions... I mean we are all moving forward through time, but we have no real control over it. We just follow the arrow that says Go That Way. We might be able to make it go a little faster or slower depending on relativity, but that's really about it. Time is really funny... because even a point moving along a line would be aware of the time taken to get from start to finish then. Even if it stands still, it's still moving forward in time. If I sit here and do nothing. I've still moved in the 4th dimension. I know I'm a second ahead of where I was a second ago, and I can remember where I was a second ago. At the same time, everything else around me is also moving through time. The beer can that is steadily being drank beside me. If I just ignore it, it happily moves forward through time on it's own, etching out it's own timeline. I pick up a three dimensional intersection of that timeline, and move it away so it doesn't spill on my computer. I've moved it in three dimensions.... and I can only move it in three dimensions. The fourth dimension is moving forward of it's own accord. My own awareness is a snapshot of time right now... along with my memory which is a function of all the other previous snapshots, which also changes with every new snapshot. I forget things all the time. I forgot where I was going with that analogy. We carry a recollection of our previous states, but we're not able to actually change where we are in time, or change what part of time we actually perceive. There's only 'now'. My First thought about what a real fourth dimensional being would be, would be the Tralfamadorians of Slaughterhouse 5, able to exist in any moment along their lifespan that they so chose. Or maybe Doctor Manhattan of Watchmen, perceiving the past, present and future simultaneously. We're not perceiving the past... just recalling it in the now. And by recalling that there is a past, we're aware that we're moving through the Fourth Dimension. It's a neat little trick. (And just triggered an idea) Maybe I'm missing the point. This is a little beyond my normal area of thinking and then some. It took me two hours just to get this post out to this point. Necratoid. That is a staggeringly cool idea. I don't think I'd be able to pull it off half as well as it demands. What I was thinking off, was that the Dead Sea Scrolls were the result of somebody catching an echo of the previous loop when they were still reasonably fresh, and writing it all down. ________________________________ --m(^0^)m-- Wot, no sig? - Epsilon - 01-15-2011 I like it and had no problem following it. But then I'm the guy that used the many worlds theory of quantum mechanics to justify super martial arts, so I may be strange. ----------------- Epsilon - Black Aeronaut - 01-15-2011 Epsilon, that's pretty much all of us here. ![]() |