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		Waiting till the last minute to see if we go to work on Monday.__________________
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		My reaction when I heard:
 "Oh, for fuck's sake."
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		Uhm... Been occupied lately.  What's going on?
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Short version: Tea Party's playing Russian Roulette with the world economy again.===========
 
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		Okay got the news..we go to work on Monday.__________________
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		Kinda reminds me of that scene in Armageddon right after they manage to defuse that nuke, and the big guy who could do nothing more than stand by and cringe saunters off, grumbling, "God, it sucks up here."
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Considering that this isn't the first time this has happened this year, it may be time for the International Monetary Fund to step in...--
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		Valles Wrote:Short version: Tea Party's playing Russian Roulette with the world economy again. Citation Needed.
 
Are you sure  it isn't both sides being idiots (the way it was the last time this happened, and the time before that)?
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		It' s when the Republican Tea Party wing attaches approval of the Keystone pipeline to the passage of the omnibus bill, that gets the goat IMO. I am in favor of these construction projects as much as the next man. But, considering the incident at Yellowstone where an oil pipeline broke, it is not environmental extremism to make sure that the environmental impact is well studied.__________________
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		The last time I looked (which, I'll grant, was a few years ago), Canadian environmental laws were more stringent than US ones. Environment Canada has given the Keystone project a green-light. How much more study does it need?--
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		When you take into account things like this  , a lot more  I would think.
	
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		nemonowan Wrote:When you take into account things like this , a lot more  I would think. Straw man - that's a matter with the inspection software, not with the pipeline itself.
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		robkelk Wrote:nemonowan Wrote:When you take into account things like this , a lot more  I would think. Straw man - that's a matter with the inspection software, not with the pipeline itself.
 So...  
Inspection systems, which are legally mandated in order to catch failures before they happen and prevent ecologically damaging spills, are being deliberately misengineered to not report failures. 
This is because it is cheaper to (pretend to) clean up a spill than to prevent it in the first place. 
And you do not think that that has some relevance to the environmental assessment?
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		That's right.
 The environmental assessment tells us how large the adverse effect is of building the pipeline in the first place; it has nothing to do with running the pipeline.
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		Which just goes to show you how fucked up the whole process is.
 Is there any chance that some independently wealthy personage can buy up a tract of land and/or building rights suitable to block construction of said pipeline?
 
		
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