Yeah. For some reason Complete Monster attracts a ton of shitposting despite the fact that it's a truly cut-and-dried trope with a very clear definition. I'm guessing it's because they think that some evil character is "cool", or does really terrible shit. But I've always seen it as a "bad writing" trope -- characters that are only capable of doing great badness. In my mind it's not even a YMMV trope, but there's always some fangirl out there trying to read the tea leaves of whether he's "really evil", and meh.
On the little upset earlier, I'd like to say that I don't really trust any of the information I was given earlier off-wiki and off-forum, so I guess Geth and Lulzkiller are off the hook for now. I've seen what constitutes "evidence" for these folks, and I'm not impressed. I'm also not impressed with some of our admins' hobbies either, but I'm hoping maturity will come with age.
Now let's talk about something entirely different:http://allthetropes.org/wiki/Romanticismhttp://allthetropes.org/wiki/Realismhttp://allthetropes.org/wiki/Modernismhttp://allthetropes.org/wiki/Post_Modernism
Modernism is actually a redlink, and the Realism page might as well be. But these are major, major concepts in the arts as a whole, and how they mirror the societies they live in. And it's moments like these where I get really frustrated with troping. It's like an index of trees, where no one knows what all of the trees put together is called. We do have them helpfully grouped as "tall trees" and "short trees", but we're still working on understanding how trees are arranged. I've mentioned some of our lack of coverage of entire historical genres before.
The Romanticism Versus Enlightenment page has a lists of romantic and enlightenment tropes (and someone other than me mentioning a Hegelian synthesis, proving that only people who already know this stuff edit these pages ??). But I also feel a little weird about this page in general, because romanticism has a pretty good definition, while the Enlightenment thought is a mix of modernism, classicism, rationalism, and a bunch of sciences being invented. Also we don't have an Enlightenment page either, naturally. But suffice to say the "Enlightenment" list includes a lot of obviously modernist tropes like Beleaguered Bureaucrat, Raygun Gothic, and Science Hero. So I think it's time to split off categories there. Category
ost Modern Tropes has, naturally, only one category member (Thanks Bob!). As for the fourth trope category, does Truth in Television count for Realist Tropes?
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On the little upset earlier, I'd like to say that I don't really trust any of the information I was given earlier off-wiki and off-forum, so I guess Geth and Lulzkiller are off the hook for now. I've seen what constitutes "evidence" for these folks, and I'm not impressed. I'm also not impressed with some of our admins' hobbies either, but I'm hoping maturity will come with age.
Now let's talk about something entirely different:http://allthetropes.org/wiki/Romanticismhttp://allthetropes.org/wiki/Realismhttp://allthetropes.org/wiki/Modernismhttp://allthetropes.org/wiki/Post_Modernism
Modernism is actually a redlink, and the Realism page might as well be. But these are major, major concepts in the arts as a whole, and how they mirror the societies they live in. And it's moments like these where I get really frustrated with troping. It's like an index of trees, where no one knows what all of the trees put together is called. We do have them helpfully grouped as "tall trees" and "short trees", but we're still working on understanding how trees are arranged. I've mentioned some of our lack of coverage of entire historical genres before.
The Romanticism Versus Enlightenment page has a lists of romantic and enlightenment tropes (and someone other than me mentioning a Hegelian synthesis, proving that only people who already know this stuff edit these pages ??). But I also feel a little weird about this page in general, because romanticism has a pretty good definition, while the Enlightenment thought is a mix of modernism, classicism, rationalism, and a bunch of sciences being invented. Also we don't have an Enlightenment page either, naturally. But suffice to say the "Enlightenment" list includes a lot of obviously modernist tropes like Beleaguered Bureaucrat, Raygun Gothic, and Science Hero. So I think it's time to split off categories there. Category
ost Modern Tropes has, naturally, only one category member (Thanks Bob!). As for the fourth trope category, does Truth in Television count for Realist Tropes?-- ∇×V