[RFC] Being You is Deculture

[Black Aeronaut]

I always thought "anti-UN forces" was a descriptive term, not a force name - something to call whoever the UN was fighting against that day.

It wouldn't include any of the veto powers (because if any of them didn't want the UN to become a world government, they would have vetoed it) or their closest allies, but the armed forces of any other country who didn't want to surrender sovereignty would be "anti-UN" whether they're working together or not.

One of the interesting bits of Macross lore that I read somewhere basically describes it as a very vocal minority that, once it appeared they would be outvoted on the referendum, marched en masse straight over to a dining hall or some such, and with a minimum of politicking resolved to ally with each other and stand in opposition to the UN.

So there pretty much was the beginnings of a loose sort of government.  I'm just taking that to its ultimate logical conclusion.

Also, I'd imagine that there would have been a LONG series of war crimes tribunals, because some seriously heinous shit went down - not the least of which was the destruction of the unarmed UN transport coming from Mars and it's loss with all hands.  (Not that the UN wasn't guilty of a few line items, but the Anti-UN coalition had a thing for going after soft targets since they were the underdogs.)

It wouldn't include any of the veto powers (because if any of them didn't want the UN to become a world government, they would have vetoed it) or their closest allies, but the armed forces of any other country who didn't want to surrender sovereignty would be "anti-UN" whether they're working together or not.

Rob I'm going to politely disagree as the majority of flyover country Would give the big middle finger to any idea of subjugating our government to the UN. This would cause the US to have another Civil War and honestly i wouldn't bet which way it would go unless the rest of the UN nations pitched in to beat those who didn't want their rule.

That said, this is BOa's story and I think he should write it as he pleases, though I do ask for a seat as a pilot in the squadron.

Easy Raj.  I asked for ideas and opinions.

Anyhow, I would imagine that the very real threat of invaders from the stars would provide something of a galvanizing thought for many Americans and quite drastically change the political climate.  The likes of Alex Jones would still have his followers, and he would undoubtedly proclaim the entire thing to be a sham, but this would be the point where the suspension of disbelief is broken for a lot of people.  They do, after all, have a hulk of an alien warship that anyone can go and see for themselves just how 'fake' it is.

And I would hope that the idea of 'United We Stand' would prevail over 'THEY'RE GONNA RAPE US ALL!!!'

Sounds like a decent enough solution to me, though the anti-Unificationists might just be a League or even a small-A alliance. They did seem to have a logo, that bird-foot shaped four-arrows-pointing-outward thing, but that couls easily have just been a unit insignia for D. D. and Nora's group.

Maybe. I'll have to take a closer look myself - typically, unit markings are usually relegated to the tail and only the tail.

Incidentally, while double checking their names just now I discovered that D.D. apparently has the nickname "Daisy" among friends. An odd enough quirk that only finding that now makes me skeptical of Some Guy On The Internet saying it, but it's not that unbelievable either. I mean, I gave the squadron leader in my Mekton dungeon crawl "Butterfly" for a call sign just now...

Heh-heh-heh. There is no escaping the embarrassing callsign...

Since I'm unlikely to post that, I'll list the rest as well, since you're currently filling out unit rosters. He's "Lt. Fairbanks Keene," and after him Queenie, Jackrabbit, Hammer, and Goblin have the highest gunnery scores compared to Boostnik, Dodo, Woofer, and Screamer. Boostnik is a speed-freak who can't believe he lost to MC's crazy little power not-armored Maneuver Frame in his space fighter, Queenie is trying to live down having been a snooty rich brat, Woofer is crazy about dogs (Much to the delight of MC's Yorkshire, who was approved to bring aboard for therapy and morale purposes since she has zero-g pet school training and a life support cube like Nimitz's in the early Honor Harrington novels,) and Screamer is mousy and shy anywhere except in combat, where she can and has terrorized Marines twice her body mass and has the highest hand-to-hand scores both in and out of the cockpit. The others I haven't developed even that much. My MC is still just called Rookie as of the latest installment, having been rushed onto the ship so it could launch only halfway through basic training due to having already had a High-Performance Flight certification to an Upright Configuration Special Vehicle license before enlistment.

Thanks for all that. With all this, I shouldn't have TOO much trouble filling out the squadrons... Just trouble finding time to do it.

edit: We know Canada didn't join the Unity Government intact since the Ottowa region is specifically not a member and hence free to offer the Macross City civilians a haven in canon, and I agree that it would be a very contentious issue in the US as well, so we probably did break up over it. Washington possibly getting vaped by the ASS-1's descent and/or nuked in the Unification War may or may not have helped that along.

Hmmm.... I could see part of Japan's southern islands suffering terribly. Or Malaysia. But DC? I'd be more inclined to think that if anything happened to DC, then it was something to do with the war.

And also, that something wouldn't happen until the USA picked a side. (Unless of course it was an act of terrorism to force the USA one way or the other...)