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All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXXI
RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXXI
(04-09-2025, 11:44 AM)MorningDaylight Wrote: Well, I will try to write something that will not waste much of anyone's time;

I am human, I'm prone to error. Errors happen. I admit I'm often anxious and write things before thinking about what exactly they mean.

About the "Human Resources" edit, I didn't intend to create legal problems for the wiki. I thought the information was factual, it was not factual. I don't read a lot of gossip news, and I thought by the point where articles on "The Guardian" were quoting it, I thought it was real. I did not intend to create legal problems for the wiki.

I promise I will abstain from troping on real things to avoid future errors.

About the "Oppressed States of America" edit, I admit, I didn't watch the credits of the movie. I don't read movie credits. Ever. Apparently, "CSA: The Confederate States of America" is not a parody of anything, despite being a mockumentary.

About the CSA example, I do not know what to say except "I had incomplete information". Honestly, I found the movie so poorly made and so absurd in its premise( I do not think any country in the proximity of Britain's sphere of influence would hold on to slavery more than my country Brazil did, that was 1888) that I thought it was a comedy; some bad movies like "The Room" by Tommy Wiseau also made me think they were intended to be comedies, but they were not. I promise I will refrain from saying a work fits a genre or not unless I have a source that is not myself.

 I do not think this last error was so big, but I suppose with all the errors I committed all those years this was the last straw to most of you.

And that is all I could write in my defence.

I am going to be against reinstating for some time, a bare minimum of six months to a year would suffice before I would reconsider, and I'll explain why.

First off, I hate having to throw anyone out who wants to edit in good faith. I helped found ATT in part because of all the hoops TV Tropes made (and still makes) people go through to bow and scrape for the mercurial whims of people who frankly, by my standards, come off heavy-handed at the most charitable.

At the same time, let me be clear: I have to hold you to the same standards I hold myself or anyone else, and frankly, you have stirred the pot numerous times. There are many persons, works, and ideas I find utterly abhorrent, and their being flung off a cliff to their doom would not displease me in the slightest. At the same time, I help run a wiki where we have to be mostly objective, and even where opinion is allowed, it has to be civilly expressed and based on a firm ground of fact with as little insult, invective, or name-calling as possible.

And that is why I find it hard to just welcome you back with open arms. No offense, you cannot restrain your passions. You have found it very hard to stay civil. You have repeatedly let political and social venom leak out far beyond levels our rules find acceptable. If you can stay away a bare minimum of six months, with no further attempt to sneak back under the radar, and then politely make your case for reinstatement, I will be more than willing to give you a fair hearing. Until then, I remain firmly convinced, for both our sakes, we need time to pass on both sides for good faith to be established, and for passions to cool, before the question can be considered.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXXI - by GethN7 - 04-09-2025, 11:09 PM

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