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The Imperial Presidency, Part 2
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2
Not yet, I'd say.  Honestly I'm very surprised it didn't happen earlier, and not at all surprised that it happened at all.  No surprise means it wasn't interesting enough to go on the card.

For my own news, I mainly rely on The Guardian and The Bulwark, so I can get a good taste of both leftist and conservative reporting.  The Bulwark is the Never Trumper journo homeland, where conservatives talk about how awful Trump is (often because Trump is not a conservative), but without being quite self-aware enough that their efforts through the Gingrich and Bush years is what brought us to this precipice, not realizing we would actually jump off.  It is good reporting though, and it gets things like this that I miss other places: The GOP’s White Nationalism Problem Goes All the Way to the Top.  The headline is self-evident, but this part isn't:

Quote:WHAT MEANINGFUL DAYLIGHT is there between Bo French and leading voices from the Trump administration itself? French has called for the deportation of 100 million people who “don’t share our values” and “shouldn’t be here”; a meme depicting the idyllic tranquility of “America after 100 million deportations” was shared by the official account of the Department of Homeland Security on New Year’s Eve, with the comment, “The peace of a nation no longer besieged by the third world.” We now know that 100 million deportations was a target seriously envisioned by Greg Bovino, Border Patrol “commander at large” until January; he recently upped his estimate of deportable illegals to 107 million. And Stephen Miller, Donald Trump’s deputy chief of staff, has long been fixated on the supposed evils of “Third World” immigration. In a Fox News rant last December, Miller declared that the 1965 decision to abolish stringent quotas limiting non-European immigration amounted to “the single largest experiment on a society, on a civilization that had ever been conducted in human history—not just the 76 million immigrants that were brought in, largely from the Third World, but their descendants too.”

So it's a common view in the government that roughly one-third of the population of the United States should be deported.  It's like, ugh, arrgh!  It's hard to know whether I should attack this from a moral, ethical, statistical, political, economic, or logistical approach.  Of course, as things go on, we will find that the world isn't willing to take all of those people right away, and we'll need a final solution to the immigrant problem (including those whose blood is only third-generation American, or alternatively is higher than fiftieth-generation American) to secure our soil.  The fact that my mother traced her ancestry to a patriot Captain in the U.S. Revolutionary War should make me safe in theory, but of course no one is actually safe when your country is run by madmen.
"Kitto daijoubu da yo." - Sakura Kinomoto
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The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Bob Schroeck - 09-11-2025, 12:41 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 09-11-2025, 04:03 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-12-2025, 09:10 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-12-2025, 09:14 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by hazard - 09-12-2025, 10:08 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-12-2025, 05:07 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by hazard - 09-12-2025, 06:21 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-13-2025, 07:20 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by hazard - 09-13-2025, 08:47 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-14-2025, 08:07 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-18-2025, 11:20 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 09-20-2025, 02:52 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-26-2025, 08:55 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Norgarth - 09-26-2025, 09:59 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-28-2025, 06:46 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-28-2025, 07:26 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 09-29-2025, 06:15 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-29-2025, 07:54 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by aku - 09-29-2025, 11:55 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 09-29-2025, 01:39 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 10-18-2025, 09:02 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 10-21-2025, 01:23 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 11-06-2025, 01:13 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 11-06-2025, 02:59 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 11-06-2025, 03:15 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 11-06-2025, 04:57 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 11-06-2025, 04:09 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 11-06-2025, 04:19 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by hazard - 11-08-2025, 07:49 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 11-13-2025, 01:05 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 11-13-2025, 08:32 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 11-13-2025, 02:37 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 11-17-2025, 08:13 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 11-21-2025, 06:01 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Norgarth - 11-17-2025, 09:48 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 11-20-2025, 12:52 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 11-24-2025, 12:17 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 11-24-2025, 07:05 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 11-30-2025, 08:43 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Isodecan - 11-30-2025, 11:16 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 12-01-2025, 05:14 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 11-29-2025, 07:58 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by hazard - 11-29-2025, 08:31 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by aku - 11-30-2025, 11:51 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 12-03-2025, 06:29 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 12-06-2025, 06:07 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 12-06-2025, 06:45 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 12-06-2025, 10:00 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 12-12-2025, 11:15 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 12-20-2025, 09:40 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 12-23-2025, 06:54 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 12-23-2025, 03:46 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-01-2026, 10:26 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-01-2026, 10:41 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-03-2026, 08:46 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-03-2026, 04:00 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-03-2026, 05:01 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-05-2026, 06:06 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 01-05-2026, 01:05 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 01-05-2026, 04:46 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-07-2026, 06:48 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-10-2026, 07:49 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-15-2026, 09:54 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 01-18-2026, 08:54 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-18-2026, 07:08 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-18-2026, 09:29 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-20-2026, 12:18 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-20-2026, 04:21 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-20-2026, 07:45 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-21-2026, 09:27 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-22-2026, 06:30 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-24-2026, 09:47 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-24-2026, 10:54 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-22-2026, 12:15 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 01-22-2026, 02:59 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-23-2026, 11:16 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 01-22-2026, 03:09 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-23-2026, 03:46 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-23-2026, 03:57 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-23-2026, 07:06 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-30-2026, 10:25 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-30-2026, 02:32 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 01-30-2026, 04:46 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by hazard - 02-01-2026, 09:37 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 01-31-2026, 06:45 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 05-19-2026, 08:57 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-01-2026, 08:33 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 02-01-2026, 04:28 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Norgarth - 02-01-2026, 09:31 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-16-2026, 12:38 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Norgarth - 02-16-2026, 12:47 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-19-2026, 09:22 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 02-19-2026, 12:34 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 02-19-2026, 05:40 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Norgarth - 02-19-2026, 11:51 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-21-2026, 11:06 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-20-2026, 02:27 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-21-2026, 01:03 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 02-20-2026, 11:44 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-21-2026, 01:07 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 02-22-2026, 05:00 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-22-2026, 09:52 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-24-2026, 04:27 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 02-25-2026, 01:40 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 02-26-2026, 03:00 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-01-2026, 06:26 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 03-01-2026, 07:23 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-03-2026, 11:56 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 03-03-2026, 11:56 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-05-2026, 08:18 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 03-06-2026, 03:39 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-08-2026, 07:01 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-11-2026, 06:12 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-12-2026, 08:33 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 03-12-2026, 06:45 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-17-2026, 08:07 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 03-20-2026, 12:41 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-21-2026, 09:21 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 03-22-2026, 05:48 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Norgarth - 03-22-2026, 06:17 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 03-23-2026, 01:52 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-23-2026, 09:13 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 03-27-2026, 04:22 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 03-31-2026, 05:25 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-01-2026, 04:29 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 04-04-2026, 09:02 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 04-04-2026, 02:33 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-06-2026, 04:03 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 04-06-2026, 09:16 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-07-2026, 01:48 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Mamorien - 04-07-2026, 04:44 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-07-2026, 07:13 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 04-08-2026, 01:20 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 04-08-2026, 05:37 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-09-2026, 04:00 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Mamorien - 04-09-2026, 04:29 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-09-2026, 12:13 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-10-2026, 02:57 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 04-12-2026, 02:37 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 04-13-2026, 12:29 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-13-2026, 05:01 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 04-14-2026, 03:21 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 04-14-2026, 12:51 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Isodecan - 04-14-2026, 11:53 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-15-2026, 12:48 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Isodecan - 04-15-2026, 07:51 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 04-16-2026, 03:19 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 04-24-2026, 12:40 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-24-2026, 04:59 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-25-2026, 09:47 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 04-26-2026, 07:11 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Norgarth - 04-26-2026, 09:20 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 04-26-2026, 01:11 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Dartz - 04-26-2026, 04:48 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Mamorien - 04-26-2026, 06:40 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 05-02-2026, 08:20 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 05-02-2026, 12:08 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 05-07-2026, 04:57 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 05-09-2026, 10:41 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 05-15-2026, 10:09 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 05-15-2026, 12:05 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 05-21-2026, 12:17 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 05-21-2026, 03:10 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Mamorien - 05-21-2026, 04:57 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 05-21-2026, 09:48 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 05-24-2026, 07:07 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 05-24-2026, 03:22 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 05-29-2026, 02:23 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 05-30-2026, 02:55 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 06-02-2026, 11:11 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 06-07-2026, 03:40 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 07-03-2026, 02:16 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 06-14-2026, 07:47 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Mamorien - 06-14-2026, 07:37 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 06-15-2026, 08:41 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 06-15-2026, 10:35 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 06-17-2026, 02:10 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 06-23-2026, 07:02 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 06-29-2026, 06:01 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 07-01-2026, 07:56 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 07-04-2026, 07:38 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 07-09-2026, 10:16 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by hazard - 07-19-2026, 10:35 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by hazard - 07-25-2026, 06:46 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 08-09-2026, 04:05 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 08-23-2026, 09:12 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 08-24-2026, 11:26 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 08-25-2026, 11:59 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 08-27-2026, 04:43 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 08-28-2026, 03:34 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 09-03-2026, 07:58 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-05-2026, 08:19 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 09-06-2026, 01:58 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-08-2026, 10:27 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 09-08-2026, 12:55 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 09-08-2026, 01:16 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-08-2026, 05:21 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-09-2026, 08:39 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-11-2026, 06:47 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Jinx999 - 09-11-2026, 12:21 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-12-2026, 08:01 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-17-2026, 07:47 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - 09-18-2026, 04:14 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Mamorien - 09-18-2026, 04:44 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - 09-17-2026, 07:59 AM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by robkelk - Yesterday, 05:33 PM
RE: The Imperial Presidency, Part 2 - by Labster - Yesterday, 10:48 PM

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