Yeah, I've heard things are getting pretty bad over there. Keep Abreast Of This Index and Nothing Butt An Index were cut (or so I hear), because, apparently, body part fetishization doesn't occur in media? *Sigh*
I don't have much to report on the technical side yet. In the meantime, I think I'll post this exchange I had over email, because it's illustrative of the way I'd hope to run the wiki. The essential message here is not to just make stuff up as we go along. Stick with a few flexible rules, and expect that moderators follow the rules.
probably one we already have, like Wretched Hive or something.
But
back on topic, I don't see why he's making up new rules when the old
ones will suffice. Is TPB a work, creator, or tool of the trade for
creative works? Nope. So it's off-topic. You'd have to convince me
otherwise.
An argument in favor might go along the lines of: Well, we cover
other distributors of content, like the TV Networks. And while this is
true, the network's positions as patrons of the work give it no minor
influence in the outcome of the plot. You could argue that tropes like
Screwed By the Network mean that networks are in fact partially creators
of the story. Plus, I have no ideas what tropes would be listed for
TPB anyway.
So the verdict is, a priori: No. I need to be convinced that it's on-topic.
Same reasoning here: Not a work, creator, or tool of the
trade. And when we say "creative works", we really mean "in
entertainment". Software is indeed a creative work but... wrong wiki.
If you want to talk about patterns in (non-entertainment) software
design, visit The Portland Pattern Repository: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki
LibreOffice might have sort of an exemption here -- it's hard to
argue that a word processor is not a tool of the trade for writers. But
since it doesn't seem tropable, writing software seems like it probably
belongs in Useful Notes or So You Want To.
ED is a creative work, and is therefore allowed. It may also be, in
practice, a troll reservation -- a page where trolls roam
free and wild. Sadly, not all of our pages will end up being good, but we'll do what we can.
Similarly, SA is a content creator and host of creative works, like the
Let's Play stuff.
-- ∇×V
I don't have much to report on the technical side yet. In the meantime, I think I'll post this exchange I had over email, because it's illustrative of the way I'd hope to run the wiki. The essential message here is not to just make stuff up as we go along. Stick with a few flexible rules, and expect that moderators follow the rules.
Quote:Recently, Fighteer wouldn't allow a page on "The Pirate Bay" to be made on TV Tropes, since it was "an illegal website". Will ATT allow a page on it?First of all "The Pirate Bay" sounds like a great trope name. It's
probably one we already have, like Wretched Hive or something.
But
back on topic, I don't see why he's making up new rules when the old
ones will suffice. Is TPB a work, creator, or tool of the trade for
creative works? Nope. So it's off-topic. You'd have to convince me
otherwise.
An argument in favor might go along the lines of: Well, we cover
other distributors of content, like the TV Networks. And while this is
true, the network's positions as patrons of the work give it no minor
influence in the outcome of the plot. You could argue that tropes like
Screwed By the Network mean that networks are in fact partially creators
of the story. Plus, I have no ideas what tropes would be listed for
TPB anyway.
So the verdict is, a priori: No. I need to be convinced that it's on-topic.
Quote:Also, would we be able to make trope pages for software?
Troping is kinda geeky by its nature, so would we be able
to make a trope page for say, Utorrent or LibreOffice?
Same reasoning here: Not a work, creator, or tool of the
trade. And when we say "creative works", we really mean "in
entertainment". Software is indeed a creative work but... wrong wiki.
If you want to talk about patterns in (non-entertainment) software
design, visit The Portland Pattern Repository: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki
LibreOffice might have sort of an exemption here -- it's hard to
argue that a word processor is not a tool of the trade for writers. But
since it doesn't seem tropable, writing software seems like it probably
belongs in Useful Notes or So You Want To.
Quote:What about pages on Encyclopedia Dramatica or Something Awful?
ED is a creative work, and is therefore allowed. It may also be, in
practice, a troll reservation -- a page where trolls roam
free and wild. Sadly, not all of our pages will end up being good, but we'll do what we can.
Similarly, SA is a content creator and host of creative works, like the
Let's Play stuff.
-- ∇×V