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Plotbunny for sale - cheap
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*twitches violently* Well, that's one way to know when you're supposed to post a backstory instead of saving it for a moment in the future. When someone else scribbles it down, offhand.
He did post a backstory. It involved someone selling him the moral equivalent of a fully-functioning Autobot Matrix on E-Bay, without including things like the onboard supercomputer or matter transmutation abilities in the sell description. It seriously pushed suspension of disbelief in ways that we had not pushed, and, *as far as I could tell*, were not particularly important to his character concept. I threw together an alternate, suggested backstory that, again, as far as I could tell, would preserve the things that he wanted preserved ('wavium Transformers! Character as Headmaster!) without mangling the world to fit him. If the backstory I wrote is sufficient for the character he wants, great. If it's not, then it, in turn, can be mangled until it is. The point is to let people have the characters they want in ways that fit into the world without breaking it. I'm trying to help work towards that.
On a different topic, I would point out that as soon as you remove the Haruhi manga/anime from the world, two things happen. First, the uncertainty dies. There is no chance that these are fans of the series slotting into place. There is not even any illusion that these *might* be fans of the series slotting into place. Anyone who knows the series will notice that no one ever mentions it, and know that this is fanfic rather than original - and thus will know about the Haruhi-as-God, etc. Second, it becomes Not Our World. This is no longer speculative fiction, or even, really, science fiction.
Rob: First, with respect to "criticizing characters before they appear", and "why did you say it if you knew how I would respond" and so forth, the point is to make sure that problems don't happen. Pointing them out before they happen is a cleaner way to do that than allowing people to make them first and then requiring fixes. In all honesty, it seemed from what you had written that you had not caught the thematic underpinnings of the world right. You wrote your entire introductory story without making your character deal with a single significant quirk. One of the major themes of the universe is "I have all this cool stuff, but my life is made bizarre by all of the wierdness that the cool stuff makes me deal with." You bought into the "cool stuff" aspect pretty quickly, but seemed to throw out the rest of that theme, citing various explanations along the way (Many of them boiling down to "I won the lotto, so I'm really really rich, so I can go mostly hardtech, and don't have to deal with all the junk that the rest of you less wealthy types do.")
Second, yes, subtlety can be funny - but handwavium is not subtle, or at least is not *only* subtle. Again, going with the idea of "my quirks are subtle quirks, and my flaws are subtle flaws" is a dodge on the "my life is made bizarre" aspect. If you want to do the subtle funny, *great*. Roll with it. Include some sort of unsubtle funny in there too, though - or if not funny, at least unsubtle.
Third, on loyalty. Loyalty is limiting, it's true. It's just not a disad. Look at the characters we're building. Loyalty here is generally two-way, and two-way loyalty is strength. It's still never a disad in bought minions, but that's another matter.
Fourth, the thought tht Kaboomite was wavetech - Well, you gave it a new name. Fundamentally, there isn't much in the way of new hardtech in this universe. It's just a few years in the future, and they haven't had near enough time to really digest wavetech trickledown into things like *chemistry* - particularly not when wavetech doesn't go boom in the first place. Also, you had it piercing and destroying a 'wavium hull when fired from a hardtech barrel. Moreover, it looked like your characters all assumed that this would be so - so it wasn't just a particularly thin raiderhull. It's pretty close to a truism in this world that when hardtech goes up against wavetech, force on force, the wavetech wins. The direct implication was that if the projectore wasn't wavetech, the projectile had to be. This is only *broadly* correct - a nuke will stil ruin just about anyone's day, for example, but I personally figured that if you were firing little baby nukes out of your gun, you'ld have said so.
Fifth, the nearsightedness bit was because the way you'd written them up looked like you were point-balancing them somehow. That's fine, if that's how you work (though a bit worrisome, see below) but I figured if you were, you ought ot bear in mind that nearsightedness wasn't worth much (actually, it just about pays for the "looks cute in glasses" that frequently accompanies it.)
Basically, it feels like you're trying to min/max the system, and that's not how this world is supposed to work at *all*. Even *thinking* along those lines - even having that sort of thing inside your goalspace - means that you won't really fit in right. We've got something of a reverse chic thing going on - the characters are cool because they're not cool. (It's been strained a bit in places, but it's there.) The quirks and disads and sheer bizarre randomness are what make the stories go. They're the *good* part. (It's one of the reasons, on a meta level, that we let the Professor get away with as much as we do - His life is composed *entirely* of sheer bizarre randomness. Also, his life goals basically boil down to "find out nifty things to do with handwavium and do them. Share them with other people, and convince those others that they are indeed nifty". These goals tie in neatly with our goals as authors, and the GM always lets you get away with a little more when you're the one who keeps pushing the plot where it's supposed to go. (That, in turn, is another one of those thematic issues. This world is pretty much *about* handwavium, and what people do with it, and how it affects their lives. You've built a character who's largely 'wave-poor. We include Dane characters from time to time for the contrast and the outsider view, but that's not what you're doing either. You've just made a Fen who happens to not use handwavium all that much, and that doesn't really fit all that well.))
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Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-06-2006, 02:09 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by The Hunterminator - 12-06-2006, 02:52 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-06-2006, 03:06 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-07-2006, 04:16 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Morganite - 12-07-2006, 04:25 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Epsilon - 12-07-2006, 05:44 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-07-2006, 05:48 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-07-2006, 09:37 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-07-2006, 10:12 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-07-2006, 12:45 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-07-2006, 04:45 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-07-2006, 05:47 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-08-2006, 01:47 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by M Fnord - 12-08-2006, 03:24 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 04:31 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-08-2006, 04:54 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 05:03 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by M Fnord - 12-08-2006, 05:18 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 05:25 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-08-2006, 07:39 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 07:54 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by M Fnord - 12-08-2006, 07:55 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-08-2006, 08:54 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by drakensis - 12-08-2006, 12:34 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-08-2006, 06:26 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 06:51 PM
quirky tech - by Rieverre - 12-08-2006, 07:14 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Acyl - 12-08-2006, 07:31 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 07:56 PM
Unpredictable - by Foxboy - 12-08-2006, 09:02 PM
Re: Unpredictable - by ECSNorway - 12-08-2006, 10:34 PM
Re: eating the biotech-goop - by Norgarth - 12-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Morganite - 12-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by M Fnord - 12-08-2006, 11:21 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by drakensis - 12-09-2006, 12:21 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-09-2006, 02:18 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-09-2006, 04:43 AM
S.S Steamboat Willy - by Florin - 12-09-2006, 01:59 PM
Re: S.S Steamboat Willy - by Acyl - 12-09-2006, 02:53 PM
hm - by Foxboy - 12-09-2006, 07:11 PM
Re: ladies and gentlemen, we've got retro - by CattyNebulart - 12-09-2006, 07:52 PM
Re: ladies and gentlemen, we've got retro - by CattyNebulart - 12-10-2006, 04:45 AM
Soap Bubble - by Valles - 12-10-2006, 09:56 AM
some issues - by Sirrocco - 12-10-2006, 11:21 AM
hem, haw - by Foxboy - 12-10-2006, 11:46 AM
Re: some issues - by Valles - 12-10-2006, 11:59 AM
Re: some issues - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-10-2006, 12:52 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 01:21 PM
Re: some issues - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-10-2006, 01:27 PM
Re: some issues - by Sirrocco - 12-10-2006, 02:45 PM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-10-2006, 04:44 PM
Re: some issues - by Acyl - 12-10-2006, 05:53 PM
Re: some issues - by Rieverre - 12-10-2006, 06:20 PM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-10-2006, 07:34 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 08:15 PM
Re: some issues - by The Hunterminator - 12-10-2006, 08:26 PM
Re: some issues - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 08:48 PM
Re: some issues - by Rieverre - 12-10-2006, 09:19 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 09:49 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 11:16 PM
Re: some issues - by drakensis - 12-11-2006, 12:22 AM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 02:03 AM
Re: some issues - by Deadpan29 - 12-11-2006, 02:34 AM
Danger Will 2 - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-11-2006, 03:55 AM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 04:09 AM
Re: some issues - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-11-2006, 05:19 AM
Re: some issues - by M Fnord - 12-11-2006, 05:29 AM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 05:43 AM
Docking - by Firvulag - 12-11-2006, 08:31 AM
stuffs - by Foxboy - 12-11-2006, 09:23 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Morganite - 12-11-2006, 10:19 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-11-2006, 01:02 PM
Con-ga line! - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 02:51 PM
Quick Reply... - by Acyl - 12-11-2006, 02:53 PM
Re: Quick Reply... - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 02:58 PM
Re: some issues - by drakensis - 12-11-2006, 04:06 PM
need some help - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 04:30 PM
Re: need some help - by Sirrocco - 12-11-2006, 06:10 PM
*boggle* - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 06:31 PM
Re: need some help - by The Hunterminator - 12-11-2006, 08:00 PM
Re: need some help - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 08:05 PM
thanks fo the help - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 08:20 PM
Speeds - by Foxboy - 12-11-2006, 08:37 PM
Re: Speeds - by The Hunterminator - 12-11-2006, 09:44 PM
Re: thanks fo the help - by Black Aeronaut - 12-11-2006, 10:24 PM
Party time! - by M Fnord - 12-11-2006, 10:31 PM
Whee - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 10:44 PM
Re: Whee - by The Hunterminator - 12-11-2006, 11:02 PM
crowd control - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 11:54 PM
Re: crowd control - by CattyNebulart - 12-12-2006, 12:06 AM
Re: crowd control - by The Hunterminator - 12-12-2006, 12:08 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-12-2006, 01:32 AM
Re: crowd control - by The Hunterminator - 12-12-2006, 01:48 AM
haha - by Foxboy - 12-12-2006, 01:53 AM
Re: crowd control - by Rieverre - 12-12-2006, 01:56 AM
Re: crowd control - by ECSNorway - 12-12-2006, 02:41 AM
Re: crowd control - by Norgarth - 12-12-2006, 04:40 AM
Re: crowd control - by ECSNorway - 12-12-2006, 05:03 AM
Re: crowd control - by CattyNebulart - 12-12-2006, 05:26 AM
Re: crowd control - by Sirrocco - 12-12-2006, 05:30 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by Acyl - 12-12-2006, 06:20 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by Rieverre - 12-12-2006, 06:53 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-12-2006, 06:56 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by Sirrocco - 12-12-2006, 06:58 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by ECSNorway - 12-12-2006, 06:59 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by M Fnord - 12-12-2006, 07:03 AM
Re: crowd control - by Valles - 12-12-2006, 08:50 AM
Re: crowd control - by Morganite - 12-12-2006, 11:13 AM
Re: crowd control - by drakensis - 12-12-2006, 11:59 AM
Re: crowd control - by drakensis - 12-12-2006, 12:24 PM
Something Different... - by K sai - 12-12-2006, 12:51 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-12-2006, 03:22 PM
Re: In all Kandor - by ECSNorway - 12-12-2006, 05:35 PM
Re: Something Different... - by Sirrocco - 12-12-2006, 06:01 PM
clothes make the fan - by Rieverre - 12-12-2006, 06:44 PM
Re: clothes make the fan - by The Hunterminator - 12-12-2006, 07:03 PM
Re: On Conventions - by M Fnord - 12-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Re: clothes make the fan - by Black Aeronaut - 12-12-2006, 08:50 PM
aw, snap - by Foxboy - 12-12-2006, 11:46 PM
re: Conventions - by drakensis - 12-13-2006, 01:52 AM
life has its ups and downs - by Rieverre - 12-13-2006, 03:44 AM
Haruhi - by Sirrocco - 12-13-2006, 04:29 AM
Re: Haruhi - by ECSNorway - 12-13-2006, 05:00 AM
Re: Haruhi - by Black Aeronaut - 12-13-2006, 05:22 AM
*snickersnort* - by Rieverre - 12-13-2006, 05:27 AM
Re: Something Different... - by K sai - 12-13-2006, 05:29 AM
Re: Danger Will - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-13-2006, 06:33 AM
continuing - by Foxboy - 12-13-2006, 08:04 AM
This is Helmuth, for Boskone.... - by Feinan - 12-13-2006, 09:37 AM
Re: This is Helmuth, for Boskone.... - by CattyNebulart - 12-13-2006, 09:49 AM
Re: Something Different... - by Sirrocco - 12-13-2006, 10:06 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-13-2006, 03:16 PM
The plot thickens - by M Fnord - 12-13-2006, 07:33 PM
... - by The Hunterminator - 12-13-2006, 08:15 PM
hmm... - by Sirrocco - 12-13-2006, 10:14 PM
Re: hmm... - by The Hunterminator - 12-13-2006, 10:20 PM
... sorta like chicken broth. - by Rieverre - 12-13-2006, 11:01 PM
Re: hmm... - by CattyNebulart - 12-13-2006, 11:04 PM
Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by M Fnord - 12-13-2006, 11:11 PM
Re: hmm... - by The Hunterminator - 12-13-2006, 11:15 PM
Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by Valles - 12-14-2006, 02:11 AM
Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by M Fnord - 12-14-2006, 02:23 AM
Re: Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by CattyNebulart - 12-14-2006, 03:01 AM
Re: Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by Sirrocco - 12-14-2006, 05:39 AM
Mmm, chicken... - by KJ - 12-14-2006, 05:44 AM
SOS-dan - by Foxboy - 12-14-2006, 05:55 AM
Re: SOS-dan - by CattyNebulart - 12-14-2006, 06:28 AM
Re: Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by Valles - 12-14-2006, 07:51 AM
devil's advocate - by Foxboy - 12-14-2006, 09:08 AM
Transferred - by Feinan - 12-14-2006, 10:13 AM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by Feinan - 12-14-2006, 12:12 PM
Scrape 'em off, Jim! - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-14-2006, 12:30 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-14-2006, 04:43 PM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by Valles - 12-14-2006, 05:21 PM
Morden - by CattyNebulart - 12-14-2006, 06:25 PM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by M Fnord - 12-14-2006, 06:27 PM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by The Hunterminator - 12-14-2006, 10:52 PM
Getting Some Air - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 12:11 AM
Regarding Castle Magellan - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 01:06 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 01:08 AM
Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 01:10 AM
Spider's Web - by Valles - 12-15-2006, 01:33 AM
Re: Spider's Web - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 01:43 AM
Re: Spider's Web - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 02:10 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-15-2006, 02:17 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 02:29 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 02:30 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-15-2006, 02:39 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-15-2006, 03:04 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 03:16 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by The Hunterminator - 12-15-2006, 04:11 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-15-2006, 05:20 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-15-2006, 06:01 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 07:45 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-15-2006, 07:59 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 08:11 AM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by Feinan - 12-15-2006, 08:26 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 05:15 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 05:45 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 05:54 PM
USAF - by Foxboy - 12-15-2006, 07:44 PM
Re: USAF - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 08:05 PM
What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 08:09 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 08:11 PM
re: What's Where - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 08:15 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 08:17 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 08:32 PM
hm - by Foxboy - 12-15-2006, 08:45 PM
Re: hm - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 08:55 PM
Re: hm - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 09:02 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by The Hunterminator - 12-15-2006, 10:12 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 10:30 PM
barroom brawls - by Foxboy - 12-15-2006, 10:33 PM
Re: barroom brawls - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 10:42 PM
Re: barroom brawls - by Black Aeronaut - 12-15-2006, 11:22 PM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-15-2006, 11:46 PM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 12:01 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 12:36 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 12:56 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 01:13 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 01:42 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 02:15 AM
Re: What's Where - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 02:20 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 02:23 AM
Re: What's Where - by Sirrocco - 12-16-2006, 02:41 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 03:05 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 03:06 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 03:18 AM
Re: What's Where - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 03:37 AM
Re: What's Where - by Sirrocco - 12-16-2006, 03:46 AM
Re: What's Where - by CattyNebulart - 12-16-2006, 03:53 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 04:10 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 04:21 AM
Read and die! - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 04:29 AM
Re: What's Where - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 04:29 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 04:32 AM
hermit and the high priestess - by Rieverre - 12-16-2006, 04:40 AM
Re: hermit and the high priestess - by ECSNorway - 12-16-2006, 04:46 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 05:19 AM
Trivial use for gas giants / asteroid belts... - by KJ - 12-16-2006, 05:52 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 06:22 AM
Re: Trivial use for gas giants / asteroid belts... - by Sirrocco - 12-16-2006, 06:27 AM
I don't get paid enough for... - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 07:24 AM
Re: Trivial use for gas giants / asteroid belts... - by K sai - 12-16-2006, 10:55 AM
Date estimate... - by Feinan - 12-16-2006, 04:53 PM
Re: Date estimate... - by CattyNebulart - 12-16-2006, 06:35 PM
Re: Date estimate... - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 08:03 PM
Re: Date estimate... - by CattyNebulart - 12-16-2006, 08:33 PM
Transferred - by Feinan - 12-16-2006, 09:44 PM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by Firvulag - 12-16-2006, 11:43 PM
Re: Words - by Firvulag - 12-16-2006, 11:46 PM
timeline - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 12:05 AM
timeline - by drakensis - 12-17-2006, 12:15 AM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by drakensis - 12-17-2006, 12:20 AM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by Feinan - 12-17-2006, 12:26 AM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 12:42 AM
Re: Words - by drakensis - 12-17-2006, 12:58 AM
Re: Ship List - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 01:06 AM
Re: Ship List - by Firvulag - 12-17-2006, 01:25 AM
Re: hermit and the high priestess - by Norgarth - 12-17-2006, 01:59 AM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by M Fnord - 12-17-2006, 02:01 AM
Re: Ship List - by The Hunterminator - 12-17-2006, 02:02 AM
Re: Ship List - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 02:12 AM
Re: Ship List - by Black Aeronaut - 12-17-2006, 02:19 AM
Re: ship list - by Rieverre - 12-17-2006, 02:53 AM
On acceleration and speed - by Sirrocco - 12-17-2006, 03:16 AM
RE: ship list - by Norgarth - 12-17-2006, 03:22 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 03:53 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 04:30 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 04:35 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by M Fnord - 12-17-2006, 04:41 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 04:59 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 05:43 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 06:06 AM
Opening theme? - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 06:38 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by M Fnord - 12-17-2006, 07:00 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 08:28 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by Sirrocco - 12-17-2006, 11:00 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 11:28 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by Sirrocco - 12-17-2006, 11:58 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by Feinan - 12-17-2006, 03:57 PM
Re: Opening theme? - by Rieverre - 12-17-2006, 04:42 PM
Engineering issues - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 06:29 PM
Re: Engineering issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 07:37 PM
Re: Engineering issues - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 09:00 PM
hm - by Foxboy - 12-17-2006, 09:04 PM
Re: hm - by Rieverre - 12-17-2006, 09:22 PM
Re: hm - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 09:38 PM
Re: Engineering issues - by M Fnord - 12-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Re: Engineering issues - by The Hunterminator - 12-18-2006, 01:40 AM
Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 02:40 AM
Re: Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 03:12 AM
re: opening song - by drakensis - 12-18-2006, 03:17 AM
Re: Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 03:43 AM
Re: Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Sirrocco - 12-18-2006, 03:59 AM
Re: Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 04:16 AM
Every corner of the universe needs a Cat Lady.... - by Ravynlocke - 12-18-2006, 11:33 AM
How NOT to Wake Up - by Anpwhotep - 12-18-2006, 12:22 PM
Green Spandex! - by drakensis - 12-18-2006, 12:44 PM
Re: Spider's Web - by Duane Peters - 12-18-2006, 01:26 PM
Re: Green Spandex - by Rieverre - 12-18-2006, 03:34 PM
Re: Green Spandex - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 03:49 PM
Re: Green Spandex - by Rieverre - 12-18-2006, 03:54 PM
Explain Star Stories - by M Fnord - 12-18-2006, 11:09 PM
Re: Prelude to Honorable Drunken Battle... - by The Hunterminator - 12-18-2006, 11:28 PM
Re: Explain Star Stories - by KJ - 12-19-2006, 12:13 AM
Re: Explain Star Stories - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 12:34 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-19-2006, 01:50 AM
Transferred - by Feinan - 12-19-2006, 03:09 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-19-2006, 04:13 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 04:14 AM
Thoughts on handwavium.... - by Feinan - 12-19-2006, 04:21 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-19-2006, 04:22 AM
Re: Thoughts on handwavium.... - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 04:47 AM
Re: Thoughts on handwavium.... - by KJ - 12-19-2006, 04:55 AM
Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-19-2006, 06:29 AM
Time out, please - by Valles - 12-19-2006, 07:19 AM
Re: Time out, please - by The Hunterminator - 12-19-2006, 07:24 AM
Re: Time out, please - by Feinan - 12-19-2006, 07:46 AM
Re: Time out, please - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 07:49 AM
Re: Time out, please - by Feinan - 12-19-2006, 08:20 AM
Re: Time out, please - by The Hunterminator - 12-19-2006, 08:22 AM
Re: Time out, please - by CattyNebulart - 12-19-2006, 09:52 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-19-2006, 10:08 AM
Re: Time out, please - by Anpwhotep - 12-19-2006, 12:00 PM
Re: Time out, please - by drakensis - 12-19-2006, 02:09 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Re: Time out, please - by robkelk - 12-19-2006, 05:03 PM
Re: Time out, please - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 05:22 PM
Re: Time out, please - by Duane Peters - 12-19-2006, 09:30 PM
Re: My Turn - by Bob Schroeck - 12-19-2006, 09:52 PM
Re: My Turn - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 10:06 PM
Re: forums - by CattyNebulart - 12-19-2006, 10:25 PM
Re: My Turn - by Ebony - 12-19-2006, 10:30 PM
Re: Time out, please - by Black Aeronaut - 12-19-2006, 10:34 PM
New Forum - by Foxboy - 12-19-2006, 10:48 PM
Oops - by Valles - 12-19-2006, 11:37 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-20-2006, 02:03 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 03:14 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-20-2006, 03:54 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-20-2006, 04:35 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 05:33 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 05:53 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 06:00 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 06:22 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 07:26 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by ECSNorway - 12-20-2006, 08:43 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by Firvulag - 12-20-2006, 09:35 AM
Re: Dogfighting - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 10:15 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 10:16 AM
Re: Dogfighting - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 10:18 AM
Re: Dogfighting - by Feinan - 12-20-2006, 10:46 AM
Re: My Turn - by Anpwhotep - 12-20-2006, 11:30 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Feinan - 12-20-2006, 11:38 AM
Re: Dogfighting - by Anpwhotep - 12-20-2006, 12:24 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 12:26 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Feinan - 12-20-2006, 12:39 PM
> Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-20-2006, 12:55 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 01:02 PM
Re: Dogfighting - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 01:06 PM
Re: Dogfighting - by Rieverre - 12-20-2006, 02:11 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-20-2006, 09:58 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-20-2006, 11:49 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-21-2006, 12:28 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-21-2006, 01:01 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-21-2006, 01:18 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-21-2006, 01:31 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-21-2006, 01:35 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-21-2006, 02:13 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-21-2006, 02:36 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-21-2006, 02:49 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-21-2006, 03:35 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-21-2006, 04:04 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by M Fnord - 12-21-2006, 04:22 AM
'Wave weapons - by Foxboy - 12-21-2006, 03:38 PM
Re: 'Wave weapons - by Rieverre - 12-21-2006, 03:51 PM
nodnod - by Foxboy - 12-21-2006, 04:08 PM
Re: nodnod - by Valles - 12-21-2006, 07:37 PM
A few other ideas... - by Bob Schroeck - 12-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-21-2006, 10:09 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-21-2006, 10:56 PM
Re: 'Wave weapons - by KJ - 12-21-2006, 11:37 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-22-2006, 12:15 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-22-2006, 12:20 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-22-2006, 12:57 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-22-2006, 01:20 AM
Re: A few other ideas... - by drakensis - 12-22-2006, 02:09 AM
Supers faction - by Foxboy - 12-22-2006, 02:47 AM
Re: Supers faction - by Bob Schroeck - 12-22-2006, 03:18 AM
Re: Supers faction - by Norgarth - 12-22-2006, 07:35 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-22-2006, 01:41 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by The Hunterminator - 12-22-2006, 04:25 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-22-2006, 07:35 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-23-2006, 02:13 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-23-2006, 02:35 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-23-2006, 08:38 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-23-2006, 05:28 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-23-2006, 07:40 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-24-2006, 04:13 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-24-2006, 05:03 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-24-2006, 05:28 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-24-2006, 05:33 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Valles - 12-24-2006, 06:53 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Morganite - 12-24-2006, 06:58 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Florin - 12-24-2006, 07:58 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Feinan - 12-24-2006, 10:25 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-24-2006, 10:53 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-24-2006, 08:50 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-24-2006, 10:56 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-24-2006, 11:01 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Feinan - 12-25-2006, 02:47 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Ebony - 12-26-2006, 11:55 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-27-2006, 12:09 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-27-2006, 12:14 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-27-2006, 02:49 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Ebony - 12-27-2006, 03:25 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-27-2006, 04:06 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 05:09 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 05:32 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-27-2006, 05:55 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-27-2006, 08:42 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 08:54 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 09:15 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 09:18 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by Rieverre - 12-27-2006, 01:28 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-27-2006, 04:58 PM
Re: Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-27-2006, 07:45 PM
Dorsai Irregulars - by Freddy Isnot - 12-28-2006, 10:52 AM
Re: Dorsai Irregulars - by Ebony - 12-28-2006, 07:44 PM
Sometime after the SOS-Con - by drakensis - 12-30-2006, 05:14 PM
Re: Sometime after the SOS-Con - by Sirrocco - 12-30-2006, 06:14 PM
The Charger - by Foxboy - 12-30-2006, 07:23 PM
Re: The Charger - by drakensis - 12-30-2006, 08:15 PM
re: Lucy - by Foxboy - 12-30-2006, 08:40 PM
Re: Sometime after the SOS-Con - by drakensis - 12-30-2006, 10:01 PM
Re: Sometime after the SOS-Con - by drakensis - 01-01-2007, 12:29 AM
Re: Another idea for background material - by Anpwhotep - 01-04-2007, 01:19 PM
Re: Another idea for background material - by Feinan - 01-05-2007, 08:40 AM
A thought on handwavium - by Feinan - 01-05-2007, 09:50 AM
Re: A thought on handwavium - by Duane Peters - 01-06-2007, 01:55 AM
Re: Another idea for background material - by Sirrocco - 01-06-2007, 06:21 AM
Handwavium theory - no intelligence needed.... - by Feinan - 01-07-2007, 01:35 PM
Re: Handwavium theory - no intelligence needed.... - by Sirrocco - 01-07-2007, 09:13 PM
Re: Handwavium theory - no intelligence needed.... - by CattyNebulart - 01-08-2007, 08:56 PM
Re: Handwavium theory - no intelligence needed.... - by CattyNebulart - 01-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Re: Sometime after the SOS-Con - by drakensis - 01-13-2007, 04:39 PM
A quick bit of info needed... - by Feinan - 01-15-2007, 04:06 PM

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