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Pope-a-Dope
Re: Tell you? Of course I will.
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I can't prove to you that god exists. However, You can't prove to me he doesn't either.
I'm curious why someone would believe in something that can't be proved to exist. What about all of the other things that haven't yet been proven to not exist, like ghosts, fairies, alien abductions, invisible incorporeal dragons in my garage, etc? Do you believe in them too? And if not, why not? What's the distinction?
Pascal's Wager seems like a pretty crappy reason to follow a religion. So you're saying that you only believe in a God because something bad might happen to you if you don't? Does that mean that you don't really believe, and you're just appearing to do so because that seems like the right thing to do?
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Well I could grant you the primates but dolphins? Come on. You are applying modern techniques to ancient societies. Something that too many people tend to do. Now Rev dark makes a point that it could ahve come from 'social contract' but that contract hasd to be based on religious not secular values.

One of Jared Diamond's books ("The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee", I think), discusses this concept in quite a lot of detail for both humans and several species of animals (including ants). Read it. It's very good.
Another thing, if all human morality comes from religion, then why do primates exhibit the same behaviour? As far as we know, they're not religious. Also, humans around the world take care of each other and have done so for millennia, despite their different religions. Doesn't that perhaps hint that religion came from human morality instead of other way around?
EDIT: Found this. It's a National Geographic Article re: chimps cooperating with each other.
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Pope-a-Dope - by Rev Dark - 04-12-2007, 01:16 AM
Re: Pope-a-Dope - by Fidoohki - 04-12-2007, 03:25 PM
Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Rev Dark - 04-12-2007, 06:09 PM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Fidoohki - 04-13-2007, 02:40 PM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Epsilon - 04-13-2007, 04:07 PM
Rebuttal - by Rev Dark - 04-13-2007, 04:13 PM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Ayiekie - 04-13-2007, 07:33 PM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Fidoohki - 04-15-2007, 05:19 AM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Epsilon - 04-15-2007, 06:51 AM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Ayiekie - 04-15-2007, 07:10 AM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by jpub - 04-16-2007, 08:23 PM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Fidoohki - 04-17-2007, 09:40 PM
Re: Sacred cow? Mmmm. Steaks! - by Epsilon - 04-18-2007, 12:45 AM
Tell you? Of course I will. - by Rev Dark - 04-18-2007, 02:48 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by CattyNebulart - 04-22-2007, 08:21 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by jpub - 04-24-2007, 10:26 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Kokuten - 04-25-2007, 12:04 AM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Fidoohki - 04-26-2007, 08:27 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Valles - 04-26-2007, 09:14 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by rmthorn - 04-26-2007, 11:39 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Ayiekie - 04-27-2007, 04:29 AM
Re: Pope-a-Dope - by Kokuten - 04-27-2007, 05:04 AM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Fidoohki - 04-27-2007, 08:57 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Epsilon - 04-27-2007, 10:02 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Fidoohki - 04-28-2007, 07:45 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Kokuten - 04-28-2007, 08:51 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Fidoohki - 04-28-2007, 10:14 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Kokuten - 04-28-2007, 10:28 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Fidoohki - 04-28-2007, 10:43 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Fidoohki - 04-28-2007, 10:44 PM
Fuck you - by Epsilon - 04-28-2007, 11:27 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by Kokuten - 04-28-2007, 11:32 PM
Re: Tell you? Of course I will. - by rmthorn - 04-28-2007, 11:38 PM
Re: Pope-a-Dope - by Morganite - 04-29-2007, 07:55 AM
Re: Pope-a-Dope - by Kokuten - 04-29-2007, 08:23 AM
Re: Pope-a-Dope - by Epsilon - 04-29-2007, 11:02 AM
Re: Pope-a-Dope - by Morganite - 04-29-2007, 08:04 PM
Back from vacation - by Rev Dark - 04-30-2007, 03:53 AM
Re: Back from vacation - by Fidoohki - 05-05-2007, 09:11 PM
Faith - it is what's for dinner. - by Rev Dark - 05-06-2007, 03:39 PM
Re: Faith - it is what's for dinner. - by Fidoohki - 05-10-2007, 08:36 AM
Re: You will have to ask more precise questions. - by Fidoohki - 05-10-2007, 03:32 PM
Re: I am a pineapple - by Angryoptimist - 05-11-2007, 09:56 PM
Re: I am a pineapple - by Kokuten - 05-24-2007, 07:49 AM
Re: I am a pineapple - by Fidoohki - 05-25-2007, 05:42 PM
Re: I am a pineapple - by Kokuten - 05-25-2007, 06:59 PM
Re: I am a pineapple - by Fidoohki - 05-25-2007, 10:18 PM
Re: I am a pineapple - by rmthorn - 05-25-2007, 11:49 PM

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