Oh really? They lied did they? So none of this:
Is true? Hmm. Very interesting that, seeing as I managed to verify it all with a couple quick web searches.
Considering 'your side' does the following:
1) Makes claims of scientific credentials that don't exist.
2) Actively sabotage the research efforts of anyone who doesn't support their claims.
3) Makes personal attacks on the motives of those same people.
4) Requires said people to *prove* that they're not some shill of the energy companies if they *do* actually get published.
Isn't it a bit silly to talk about 'my side' and intellectual honesty?
Ayiekie, you seem to have this belief that I'm against the environmentalist movement. I'm not. What I *am* is pro critical thinking, and pro skepticism.
If I can get something that is supportable, *good* science, I'll happily agree with everything the climate change crowd propose. But they don't. If any other scientist tried to sell a theory with the same weak evidence these guys have, they'd be laughed out of their field.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable in that.
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Christopher Angel, aka JPublic
The Works of Christopher Angel
"Camaraderie, adventure, and steel on steel. The stuff of legend! Right, Boo?"
Quote:
Professor John F B Mitchell OBE FRS is Met Office Director of Climate Science. He gained a BSc honours degree in applied mathematics in 1970 and a PhD in theoretical physics in 1973, both from Queen's University, Belfast.
He joined the dynamical climatology branch of the British Meteorological Office in 1973. In 1978, he took charge of the climate change group in what is now the Met Office's Hadley Centre for Climate Change. He is a leading expert in climatic effects of increases in greenhouse gases and related pollutants.
He was a lead author in the first three IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) reports. He is currently chairman of the WMO JSC/CLIVAR Working Group on Climate Modelling. In 1997 and 1998 he shared the Norbert Gerbier-Mumm Prize and in 2004 received the Hans Oeschger medal from the European Geophysical Union.
He is a Fellow of the Royal Society. He is also a visiting professor at the School of Mathematics, Meteorology and Physics in the University of Reading, and an honorary professor of environmental science at the University of East Anglia.
Is true? Hmm. Very interesting that, seeing as I managed to verify it all with a couple quick web searches.
Considering 'your side' does the following:
1) Makes claims of scientific credentials that don't exist.
2) Actively sabotage the research efforts of anyone who doesn't support their claims.
3) Makes personal attacks on the motives of those same people.
4) Requires said people to *prove* that they're not some shill of the energy companies if they *do* actually get published.
Isn't it a bit silly to talk about 'my side' and intellectual honesty?
Ayiekie, you seem to have this belief that I'm against the environmentalist movement. I'm not. What I *am* is pro critical thinking, and pro skepticism.
If I can get something that is supportable, *good* science, I'll happily agree with everything the climate change crowd propose. But they don't. If any other scientist tried to sell a theory with the same weak evidence these guys have, they'd be laughed out of their field.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable in that.
--
Christopher Angel, aka JPublic
The Works of Christopher Angel
"Camaraderie, adventure, and steel on steel. The stuff of legend! Right, Boo?"