FIRST AYIEKIE
I thought I'd seen you use a sig with anti-christian slogans add it together with your rebuttal seeming to suddenly argue that that all christians were as bad as the radical muslims. I didn't realize you hadn't noticed the "radical" and I was wondering if you had an issue with "all" christians and the reason for it.
NEXT EPSILON
My SECOND reason for starting the thread was for information for others.
I look for incidents of muslim violence in the US, just as I keep an eye on kkk activity in the south. I'm not being racist. I do it simply because I believe or hope that it will give me some warning of another 911 type event or a upswing in kkk activity.
I first noticed in studying the history of inventions that humans seem to anticipate each others work, it's caused some very angry inventors to accusing each other of theft, but actually seems to point toward something more profound about the human mind.
I've also noticed a similiar effect in fanfic posting and in several cases for an instant entertained the silly notion that my computer was compromised and some hacker was selling my ideas to other writers.(what really hurt was that most were far better implimentations of ideas I'd been playing with.)
I think I've seen the same sort of anticipation in unrelated terror groups activities and hope I can use it to have some warning about another 911 type attack.
The sanatized politically correct headlines our news companies are currently in love with makes this a hard thing to study when your looking for activities of radical muslim groups.
Which brings me to the FIRST reason I started this thread and the reasons for the way I worded it.
The first reason for posting it and for the wording of the post was because of the sanitization of the headline. It removed all reference to muslim or jew. The title was so politically correct it gave very little useful info.
I believe had the man been screaming kkk or some other radical christian groups slogans you would have had the head line and a short comment close to what I started the thread with.
The comment is very rough paraphrase of some archived news articles talking about the activities of the kkk. (can't remember when they were from it has been several years since the library research.)
I don't think it's a direct quote of any, but I think it gets the spirit of those first line comments in many articles.
Bad taste? maybe I personally didn't think so, but the newspaper was in worse taste by leaving critical information out.
FINALLY KHAGLER
Thanks for the link I would have missed this follow on article.
It's interesting article.
I'm no expert or pyscologist, but it made me think of something I read years ago about kkk members that had "left the fold" and returned.
Seems they were required to do something "above the call" to regain a membership in good standing.
I'm not saying this is the case here or that even someone local mentioned that to the man, but most of the radical muslim propaganda comes right out and says that killing a jew will "cover a multitude of sins" with allah.
I'm sure he has been exposed to such propaganda the radicals make sure there ideas makes the rounds in muslim groups and I suspect they, like the kkk have learned to taylor the propaganda to appeal to the mentally unstable.
I don't know if it's official position or just over zeolous muslims, but all mosque have enforcers that come down on you if you leave the religion.
I doubt the police will do the checking,(it would appear racist to some) but they really should check and see if the man has been approached or harassed by muslims not happy with him leaving the faith.
I'm not saying it was a purposely done thing, but given the man's mental state just putting to much emphasis on how bad his "sin" was could have played a part in his actions especially if he had a change of heart about the christian faith and thought he had to do something "above the call" to regain his standings with allah.
Finally Khagler I don't think anyone replying to this thread thinks all muslims are bad, evil or support the values of the radical muslims.
The man was yelling radical muslim slogans not radical christian slogans and that brings me back to the point of my first post and it's wording.
Had the man went in yelling radical christian slogans from the kkk or a half dozen other such groups that hate jews you would have seen that in the headlines. You would have also seen the local police checking the church were he was baptised for kkk or other radical christian connections.
I believe you won't see the police officially checking the local mosque for radical moslim connections because all to many people will scream RACISM!
Racism is wrong and evil, but fear of looking racist and people screaming racism at the drop of a hat creates a dangerous blindness that given the hatred around us we can't afford.
howard melton
I thought I'd seen you use a sig with anti-christian slogans add it together with your rebuttal seeming to suddenly argue that that all christians were as bad as the radical muslims. I didn't realize you hadn't noticed the "radical" and I was wondering if you had an issue with "all" christians and the reason for it.
NEXT EPSILON
My SECOND reason for starting the thread was for information for others.
I look for incidents of muslim violence in the US, just as I keep an eye on kkk activity in the south. I'm not being racist. I do it simply because I believe or hope that it will give me some warning of another 911 type event or a upswing in kkk activity.
I first noticed in studying the history of inventions that humans seem to anticipate each others work, it's caused some very angry inventors to accusing each other of theft, but actually seems to point toward something more profound about the human mind.
I've also noticed a similiar effect in fanfic posting and in several cases for an instant entertained the silly notion that my computer was compromised and some hacker was selling my ideas to other writers.(what really hurt was that most were far better implimentations of ideas I'd been playing with.)
I think I've seen the same sort of anticipation in unrelated terror groups activities and hope I can use it to have some warning about another 911 type attack.
The sanatized politically correct headlines our news companies are currently in love with makes this a hard thing to study when your looking for activities of radical muslim groups.
Which brings me to the FIRST reason I started this thread and the reasons for the way I worded it.
The first reason for posting it and for the wording of the post was because of the sanitization of the headline. It removed all reference to muslim or jew. The title was so politically correct it gave very little useful info.
I believe had the man been screaming kkk or some other radical christian groups slogans you would have had the head line and a short comment close to what I started the thread with.
The comment is very rough paraphrase of some archived news articles talking about the activities of the kkk. (can't remember when they were from it has been several years since the library research.)
I don't think it's a direct quote of any, but I think it gets the spirit of those first line comments in many articles.
Bad taste? maybe I personally didn't think so, but the newspaper was in worse taste by leaving critical information out.
FINALLY KHAGLER
Thanks for the link I would have missed this follow on article.
It's interesting article.
I'm no expert or pyscologist, but it made me think of something I read years ago about kkk members that had "left the fold" and returned.
Seems they were required to do something "above the call" to regain a membership in good standing.
I'm not saying this is the case here or that even someone local mentioned that to the man, but most of the radical muslim propaganda comes right out and says that killing a jew will "cover a multitude of sins" with allah.
I'm sure he has been exposed to such propaganda the radicals make sure there ideas makes the rounds in muslim groups and I suspect they, like the kkk have learned to taylor the propaganda to appeal to the mentally unstable.
I don't know if it's official position or just over zeolous muslims, but all mosque have enforcers that come down on you if you leave the religion.
I doubt the police will do the checking,(it would appear racist to some) but they really should check and see if the man has been approached or harassed by muslims not happy with him leaving the faith.
I'm not saying it was a purposely done thing, but given the man's mental state just putting to much emphasis on how bad his "sin" was could have played a part in his actions especially if he had a change of heart about the christian faith and thought he had to do something "above the call" to regain his standings with allah.
Finally Khagler I don't think anyone replying to this thread thinks all muslims are bad, evil or support the values of the radical muslims.
The man was yelling radical muslim slogans not radical christian slogans and that brings me back to the point of my first post and it's wording.
Had the man went in yelling radical christian slogans from the kkk or a half dozen other such groups that hate jews you would have seen that in the headlines. You would have also seen the local police checking the church were he was baptised for kkk or other radical christian connections.
I believe you won't see the police officially checking the local mosque for radical moslim connections because all to many people will scream RACISM!
Racism is wrong and evil, but fear of looking racist and people screaming racism at the drop of a hat creates a dangerous blindness that given the hatred around us we can't afford.
howard melton