Quote:I guess you missed my point in saying "Also format wise"... I was saying that you wrote a statement that came out:
This man was a psychopath. Blaming what he did on Islam is like blaming Grand Theft Auto for gang crime.
Hat is to head, as foot is to shoe.
I'm not disagreeing with the point you made... I'm disagreeing with the format use phrased it in. Like my above example, where hat and foot are in one catagory and head and hat are in the other. Your point came out in the format of:
Islam is to the cause of killing in the name of Islam, as gang crime is to GTA.
You put your point in a format that put the effects as 'Islam' and 'gang crime' and the causes as 'Killing in the name of Islam' and 'GTA'. This was my point not a disagreement with the guy being a psycho.
Yes... pithy one liners are retorts (not often helpful until later in the argument.)
Can't agree on the badness of descriptors... the first few posts weren't clear and that made half this discussion.
Quote:While an interesting biographical note: He wasn't actually Christian (he missed the point entirely if he thought he was... he did stop attending before hand and ranted otherwise.) He was working towards converting then flipped out and reverted to Islam and then started killing people over it... he is loony and his motives aren't always going to make real sense. That he stared killing in the name of: Islam, is enough of an indicator in his mind that he was Islamic... and is once again. His proclaimed cause was Islam, that the ones he was Islamic with all went 'WTF? Why the hell is he killing those guys? Where did that come from?. Means he went homicidal on his own... maybe Sam was reincarnated and had a nice talk with him, its new owner.
I'm guessing that the fact that the shooter was actually Christian will have no effect whatsoever on the "all Muslims are evil" crowd.
I don't like Islam. I fully admit that I don't have any love of the religion. I haven't seen anything good about it that isn't already covered by Christianity. Which are both worshipping the same tribal god gone, monotheistic over-God. Their argument is over how to do the worshipping.
I don't hate the people who are Islamic for the most part. Its the homicidal ones that want to have a global fascist dictatorship with Islam (their branch at least) as the Global state religion and kill everyone else and their mercenary flunkies. The homicidal ones that think the Nazis are excellent role models are the problem, not the rank and file. The group I don't like have been refereed to as 'radical', 'militant' and a few other descriptors. They are the issue.
My hate for them is more in the category of hate that I leave to the enemy forces in various video games: They want to kill me for existing. I have a problem with this. They can die now. Rather than a how dare you not be like me kind of hate they tend to radiate.
And no... I'm not a Christian or Jew or Muslim. I have issues with a monotheistic god that starts off its holy book by dictating that in the beginning we created the world. The logic hole annoys me.