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The Law of Unintended Consequences
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War.
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I've stayed out of this until now, but simply cannot ignore the illogic that Necratoid is perpetuating any longer. It's late here, so I'll only point out a couple of egregious examples; the remainder will be left as an exercise for the student.

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Im baffled on the point of this Are you pointing out that the concept of SECRET is beyond the Red Cross for a reason?
I don't know whether that's what he's saying, but the answer to your question is "Yes". The reason is found in the Geneva Convention For the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field, Geneva, 12 August 1949, specificially but not exclusively in Articles 13, 24, and 28 of that Convention. This international treaty, signed and ratified by the United States of America, specifically gives the International Committee of the Red Cross the right and responsibility to inspect any site, secret or not, where any combatant is held by a signatory power, no matter whether the combatant is or is not a member of a regular armed force.
If enemy combatant prisoners are being held in a location, then failure to allow the International Red Cross to inspect that location is a violation of international treaty. If enemy combatant prisoners are not being held in a location, then the simplest way to prove this is to allow the International Red Cross to see this for themselves.

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The hell? 3 guys kill themselves in prison and the point is what? This was not boredom here this is a propaganda event.
So Necratoid says. Others say that this happened because their rights were being denied. We cannot know the truth, because they're now dead and nobody was allowed to visit them or inspect their cells while they were alive.

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And you will never understand why you are hated.
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And in one moment of truth your true colors You all but declared yourself an active jihadist here.
With that statement, Necratoid proved (a) that he'd rather use a baseless ad hominen attack than address the stated arguement, and (b) that Ayiekie was correct - he's closed his mind to anything that doesn't fit into his preconceived notions, and never will understand why his ingrained and possibly-unacknowledged prejudices cause people like him to be disliked.
(This reminds me of some Americans who told me that they couldn't believe that their country would send a citizen of a friendly nation to a third country to be tortured for information, even after I gave specifics of one recent case where this had already happened. They'd rather cling to their delusions than face the truth of what their leaders are doing.)

-Rob Kelk
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012
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Messages In This Thread
Not under Geneva convention - by hmelton - 07-03-2006, 05:57 AM
at least one mistake - by Logan Darklighter - 07-03-2006, 06:30 AM
At least one mistake - by hmelton - 07-03-2006, 08:15 AM
Geneva conventions - by Logan Darklighter - 07-03-2006, 05:26 PM
Geneva convention - by hmelton - 07-04-2006, 01:24 AM
The Rangers Reach - by hmelton - 07-04-2006, 01:37 AM
that's what's happening - by Logan Darklighter - 07-04-2006, 06:04 AM
Re: POW's not criminals and China's attack Censor - by CattyNebulart - 07-06-2006, 03:10 PM
POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Necratoid - 07-15-2006, 06:12 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Ayiekie - 07-15-2006, 08:40 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Necratoid - 07-16-2006, 09:01 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Ayiekie - 07-18-2006, 07:59 PM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Necratoid - 07-20-2006, 01:20 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Ayiekie - 07-20-2006, 02:59 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by robkelk - 07-20-2006, 03:36 AM
*** - by Foxboy - 07-20-2006, 07:39 AM
Re: *** - by robkelk - 07-20-2006, 02:32 PM
re: Godwin - by Foxboy - 07-20-2006, 02:40 PM
... - by Morganite - 07-20-2006, 04:38 PM
Re: *** - by Ayiekie - 07-20-2006, 05:23 PM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-20-2006, 05:49 PM
Re: ... - by Morganite - 07-20-2006, 06:29 PM
*** - by Foxboy - 07-20-2006, 06:39 PM
Re: *** - by CattyNebulart - 07-20-2006, 09:07 PM
Re: *** - by Epsilon - 07-20-2006, 11:15 PM
Re: *** - by Valles - 07-20-2006, 11:43 PM
Re: ... - by robkelk - 07-21-2006, 12:29 AM
Re: *** - by Epsilon - 07-21-2006, 01:30 AM
Re: ... - by Morganite - 07-21-2006, 02:24 AM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-21-2006, 06:23 AM
Re: ... - by Custos Sophiae - 07-21-2006, 05:05 PM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-21-2006, 05:54 PM
Re: ... - by Custos Sophiae - 07-21-2006, 07:39 PM
Re: ... - by Epsilon - 07-21-2006, 09:28 PM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-21-2006, 09:43 PM
Re: ... - by Necratoid - 07-22-2006, 05:24 AM
Re: ... - by Logan Darklighter - 07-22-2006, 05:49 AM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-22-2006, 06:47 AM
Re: ... - by Epsilon - 07-22-2006, 07:59 AM
Re: ... - by Necratoid - 07-24-2006, 12:31 AM
Okay, people.... - by Bob Schroeck - 07-24-2006, 02:21 PM

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