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Here we come, Iran.
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The Koran says you're not supposed to kill Christians or Jews.
So Muslims go to a college to study the Koran and come out hell bent on wiping out Israel and the US as the source of all evil I am saddened by being proud of the public schools in my area.
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This is why I'm calling you a racist. Also, ignorant.
You don't even actually know that to be racist... I must be against a race. I may be the equivalent of an anti-Semite towards Islam... but you apparently don't know the definition of your own insults..
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However, the fact that there are radical people in the religion does not and should not be taken as a representative of the whole.
Which was the point of my twice written explanation of a GOOD Muslim and a BAD Muslim. Im not explaining that again.
If I take your advice and I call them fundamentalist Muslims.... this means by default those are the guys following what the religion literally tells them to do. Its a literal translation of the Koran is what that means. That means by default the point of Islam is to kill non-Muslims. A fundamentalist is someone who follows the letter of the instruction manual and not the spirit. So by declaring them fundamentalists you've declared the point of the religion to be 'Convert or Die!!!'. Militant Islam is more the term you want if your not outright confirming this is the basic credo of Islam.
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According to the quote above, I should be, uh, fumigated (aka killed) but I'll give Christians the benefit of the doubt that the majority of them aren't interested in fumigating me.
First, that isnt what he is talking about. He was talking about kicking people out of government not killing them. Making your fear misguided and pointless or flat out misdirection. The first sight I found on a search engine pointed this out. Also, your sighting a man (PR) who ran on traditional family values and lost his bid for the presidency, because he got caught sleeping around while married he also declared termite mounds as imaginary.
The Bush quotes are interesting choices. The first is filtered through a man from the imaginary country of exploding people. So questionable, in phrasement if not paraphrasement. The second puts Freedom and Justice on one side of a scale and Fear and Cruelty on the other. Then said that God is on one side of the scale. Which is true for a devout Christian. Jesus had two messages we can confirm without dogma issues. First, Wouldnt it be nice to treat each other well for a change? and two The current rabies are tool of the Roman government. Freedom is not on the side of the Taliban or the Islamic governments. Justice is arguable, but put on the side of Freedom. Unless your saying that fear and cruelty are Gods will you kind of have to agree with him there.
I've actually heard Bush explain what he means by God told him to. What he means is he prays on such decisions and lets his moral center guide him. I know he mentions God in that speech there... However I think you missed his prime point of that line. Possibly on purpose.
Yes, I understand both sides use rhetoric but when one side is free these people to rule themselves and the other is homicidal ranting. They are not comparable beyond a very basic level.
As for your random Bible quotes:
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So... you would be a deliverer if you went around assassinating people?
No, your parsing this one wrong. Eglon the king of Moab, was apparent a prick as far as the Jews were concerned. So they got some one to deliver the Jews from said prick (like being delivered from evil or an attacking man as in the following case), it is the Jews being delivered in this case. That or he was there to be the deliverer of the tribute and the message from God. The message being, "DIE!"
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I wonder if the wife kicks the other man's genitals if her foot gets cut off?
Considering they went to the effort to make the scenario that specific, no. This looks like a matter of the wife effectively committing adultery for fondling another man's genital (thinking about sex with other people and such things is considered wrong by these people). She effectively sadistically coping a feel, so this law must stem from an actual incident lost to history. If she kicks him it is a matter of disabling the guy with pain. It would be like bashing him in the head with something. Its the grasping of the target bit they have issue with, not the target specifically. They dont say she cant beat on the other guy.
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Show no quarter to enemies of the faith?
Out of context... this is part of the documentation of a series of wars with people a few millennium ago. People the best you could hope for fighting them, if they won, was a chance to go back into slavery. Quarter was not a viable option. Consider the times.
There is literally a book of the Bible (Jobe) about how God is a Prick and if you put up with him his antics long enough he may reward you.... or not. The Jews have been the world's spittoon for millennium. Europeans declared money unclean and made the Jews in the banks. A few decades/centuries later they changed their minds on the cleanness of money and wondered why the Jews had all the bankers jobs. The Old testament is a history book written by religious people.
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The NK are a -chosen people-.
Chosen in the same way as the Jews typically are. Won't they be surprised when they find out, I mean discovering your target practice usually does surprise you.
I simplified the lose of NK true, but the fact is that external war means that NK collapses. It may take a few weeks/months/years but it will. Starting when they invade their first a SK city and notice the sheer amount of stuff available to the SK.
They have a madman setting the rules of education and everything else. They'll believe that at first, but the more stuff they see that is had by the SKns the more of them that will start going 'WTF? They have so much stuff. We don't have stuff.'
I hardly need it pointed out that Communists lie to their peons.
So controveersal the Iranian president is he got voted out of office and won anyway. If the government didn't want him there he wouldn't be there.
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Messages In This Thread
Here we come, Iran. - by katreus - 04-09-2006, 11:18 AM
Re: Here we come, Iran. - by Valles - 04-09-2006, 01:47 PM
RE: Here we come, Iran. - by blob - 04-09-2006, 01:51 PM
Arrogance - by Foxboy - 04-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Re: Arrogance - by VladimirTherin - 04-09-2006, 06:09 PM
Re: Arrogance - by blob - 04-09-2006, 07:52 PM
Why not develop war plans? - by hmelton - 04-09-2006, 10:31 PM
Re: Why not develop war plans? - by M Fnord - 04-10-2006, 12:30 AM
Re: Why not develop war plans? - by katreus - 04-10-2006, 12:49 AM
war plans - by hmelton - 04-10-2006, 05:16 AM
Re: war plans - by VladimirTherin - 04-10-2006, 08:00 AM
Re: war plans - by M Fnord - 04-11-2006, 12:48 AM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 04-11-2006, 01:08 AM
war plans - by hmelton - 04-11-2006, 03:09 AM
Re: war plans - by Valles - 04-11-2006, 04:27 AM
Re: war plans - by katreus - 04-11-2006, 06:02 AM
Re: war plans - by Custos Sophiae - 04-11-2006, 11:28 AM
Re: war plans - by Valles - 04-11-2006, 12:33 PM
Re: war plans - by katreus - 04-11-2006, 05:36 PM
Re: war plans - by Custos Sophiae - 04-11-2006, 06:22 PM
Re: war plans - by katreus - 04-11-2006, 06:52 PM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 04-11-2006, 07:55 PM
Re: war plans - by Fidoohki - 04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
Re: war plans - by Necratoid - 04-25-2006, 06:23 AM
Re: war plans - by Acyl - 04-25-2006, 04:01 PM
Re: war plans - by Necratoid - 04-25-2006, 05:26 PM
Re: war plans - by Acyl - 04-25-2006, 06:03 PM
Re: war plans - by Necratoid - 04-25-2006, 06:21 PM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 04-25-2006, 07:59 PM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 04-25-2006, 08:04 PM
Re: war plans - by Acyl - 04-25-2006, 08:28 PM
Re: war plans - by Necratoid - 04-26-2006, 12:33 AM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 04-26-2006, 01:01 AM
Re: war plans - by M Fnord - 04-26-2006, 01:02 AM
Re: war plans - by Necratoid - 04-26-2006, 08:20 AM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 04-26-2006, 07:34 PM
Re: war plans - by Necratoid - 04-26-2006, 07:56 PM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 04-26-2006, 07:58 PM
Re: war plans - by katreus - 04-27-2006, 11:43 AM
re: NK - by katreus - 04-27-2006, 11:11 PM
edit - by katreus - 04-28-2006, 12:56 AM
Re: edit - by Necratoid - 05-03-2006, 01:16 PM
Re: war plans - by Fidoohki - 05-05-2006, 12:57 AM
Re: war plans - by Necratoid - 05-08-2006, 08:58 PM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 05-10-2006, 01:21 AM
Re: war plans - by ECSNorway - 05-19-2006, 11:22 PM
Re: war plans - by Epsilon - 05-21-2006, 12:46 AM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 05-21-2006, 12:51 AM
Re: war plans - by Ayiekie - 05-22-2006, 05:41 AM
Iran atomic - by hmelton - 05-23-2006, 02:13 PM
Re: Iran atomic - by Ayiekie - 05-24-2006, 05:59 PM
Re: Iran atomic - by Necratoid - 05-24-2006, 11:05 PM
Re: Iran atomic - by Ayiekie - 05-25-2006, 12:16 AM
Re: Iran atomic - by M Fnord - 05-25-2006, 12:26 AM

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