I do.
I shall qualify that statement in adding that I find other religous cults (all relgions are at their heart cults) just as, or in some cases more concerning
than the Mormons.
As individuals, they are as nice as any other group I have encountered. Blackaeronaut, I am taking some pretty hard shots here, please try not to take it
personally, as I am making every attempt to speak to the church as a group rather than individuals like yourself.
Taken as a whole they are troublesome, delusional and dangerous. The various schisms run from moderately benign to out and out bug fuck nuts.
Now Blackaeronaut, you have mentioned several excellent works undertaken on behalf of the Mormon church. These are laudable, but have no bearing on the
truth of the Mormon faith. They are acts that can be carried out by people of faith or people without faith. And are. The geneological database is a lovely
resource. A shame that it is tied to the ingenious, if downright ugly doctrime of baptising the deceased (in pushing-up-the-daisies abstentia) into the faith
- by proxy. Often against the previously stated wishes of the deceased. Adding the Jewish (and other) victims of the holocaust to the rolls of the baptized.
That is just fucking tasteless, yet the LDS did just that, and as recently as the last decade has come under fire, again, for the practice. You should also
note that the church is very firm in kicking out those that do not toe the line, often with disastrous results to them in the business, social and family
circles.
Do you truly believe that Satan and all his impish homunculi are in battle with the Mormon version of god? Are you looking forward to becoming as a god
yourself? Do you truly believe that men having sex with men, or women having sex with women, causes Satan to grin ear to ear. When I visited Orem a few years
back, I marvelled at the porn available in all the video stores (in the nice family oriented malls.) Satan is not the only one who enjoyes hot girl on girl
action in Orem.
Do you believe that Joseph Smith did recieve and translate the Book of Mormon? Or was he just another huckster of the many that emerged from the burnt over
district? (The history of charlatans and hucksters from that region is very well documented.) I will take this opportunity to note that there is nothing in
the archaeological record whatsover that supports the insultingly obvious fiction that makes up stories contained therein. If civilizations of the nature
decribed in the book of Mormon existed on the North American continent, there would be obvious, undisputable, artifacts. These artifacts would be legion. It
would be part of the oral tradition of most if not all the native people. The evidence for the civilizations in the book of Mormon is the same as the evidence
for the global flood of Noah. Not there at all.
I don't roll into churches and take the members to task on their faiths - in the same way that I do not go into anime/fantasy/star trek coventions and
rip on the more outrageous spectacles there - or go into S&M parties and tease the doms and the gimps. These are all people who are enjoying time with
their favorite fantasy, and as such, rock on. Yet the Mormons (among other charismatic faiths) see fit to do just that. On my property. That is just
impolite. So much for being nice as a group.
American law is very specific about the separation of Church and State and the rules governing religous interference by the Church. Any church. If the
Mormon Church in going after Prop 08 - used church resources, then they should be stripped of their tax exempt status. Period. That goes for any church of
any denomination.
I was pleased to read of your discomfort with voting blocks. One quick question. Satan wants, by your admission, to have everyone's life decided for
them. Is the church, in asking for the faithful to support voting blocks, supporting the position of the Mormon God or the Mormon Satan?
Cheers,
Shayne
I shall qualify that statement in adding that I find other religous cults (all relgions are at their heart cults) just as, or in some cases more concerning
than the Mormons.
As individuals, they are as nice as any other group I have encountered. Blackaeronaut, I am taking some pretty hard shots here, please try not to take it
personally, as I am making every attempt to speak to the church as a group rather than individuals like yourself.
Taken as a whole they are troublesome, delusional and dangerous. The various schisms run from moderately benign to out and out bug fuck nuts.
Now Blackaeronaut, you have mentioned several excellent works undertaken on behalf of the Mormon church. These are laudable, but have no bearing on the
truth of the Mormon faith. They are acts that can be carried out by people of faith or people without faith. And are. The geneological database is a lovely
resource. A shame that it is tied to the ingenious, if downright ugly doctrime of baptising the deceased (in pushing-up-the-daisies abstentia) into the faith
- by proxy. Often against the previously stated wishes of the deceased. Adding the Jewish (and other) victims of the holocaust to the rolls of the baptized.
That is just fucking tasteless, yet the LDS did just that, and as recently as the last decade has come under fire, again, for the practice. You should also
note that the church is very firm in kicking out those that do not toe the line, often with disastrous results to them in the business, social and family
circles.
Do you truly believe that Satan and all his impish homunculi are in battle with the Mormon version of god? Are you looking forward to becoming as a god
yourself? Do you truly believe that men having sex with men, or women having sex with women, causes Satan to grin ear to ear. When I visited Orem a few years
back, I marvelled at the porn available in all the video stores (in the nice family oriented malls.) Satan is not the only one who enjoyes hot girl on girl
action in Orem.
Do you believe that Joseph Smith did recieve and translate the Book of Mormon? Or was he just another huckster of the many that emerged from the burnt over
district? (The history of charlatans and hucksters from that region is very well documented.) I will take this opportunity to note that there is nothing in
the archaeological record whatsover that supports the insultingly obvious fiction that makes up stories contained therein. If civilizations of the nature
decribed in the book of Mormon existed on the North American continent, there would be obvious, undisputable, artifacts. These artifacts would be legion. It
would be part of the oral tradition of most if not all the native people. The evidence for the civilizations in the book of Mormon is the same as the evidence
for the global flood of Noah. Not there at all.
I don't roll into churches and take the members to task on their faiths - in the same way that I do not go into anime/fantasy/star trek coventions and
rip on the more outrageous spectacles there - or go into S&M parties and tease the doms and the gimps. These are all people who are enjoying time with
their favorite fantasy, and as such, rock on. Yet the Mormons (among other charismatic faiths) see fit to do just that. On my property. That is just
impolite. So much for being nice as a group.
American law is very specific about the separation of Church and State and the rules governing religous interference by the Church. Any church. If the
Mormon Church in going after Prop 08 - used church resources, then they should be stripped of their tax exempt status. Period. That goes for any church of
any denomination.
I was pleased to read of your discomfort with voting blocks. One quick question. Satan wants, by your admission, to have everyone's life decided for
them. Is the church, in asking for the faithful to support voting blocks, supporting the position of the Mormon God or the Mormon Satan?
Cheers,
Shayne