Quote:Shepherd wrote:Right, so if SK status is dangerous because of contagion between the SK and people who once knew the Secret, that would actually explain why such a useful spell fell out of fashion. You couldn't safely hide most old family manors that way.Quote:ECSNorway wrote:The problem is that Dumbledore went on to become secret-keeper for Grimmauld Place. It wouldn't make sense for him to refuse to become the Potter secret-keeper due to the danger and then become the Black secret-keeper; especially since the Black family's known loyalties make it a virtual certainty that Voldemort knew Grimmauld Place's location before the Fidelius charm was cast.
It also might explain why D'dore didn't want to be the Secret Keeper, if you're assuming non-malicious motives on his part.
He might -know- that SK status can be used to attack someone, and might assume Moldyshorts knows as well... and doesn't want to take the risk. Peter and Sirius, on the other hand, are expendable...
As an example, consider Malfoy Manor. How many social events, friendly visits, business meetings, and the like have happened there? Put up a Fidelius over it, and half the social elite (and probably a quarter of the Ministry) become weapons. Imagine what would happen if your attacker grabbed, say, thirty of them to hit you through. Not safe at all, so nobody would do it, so why remember it?
That'd put D's use of the charm in the 'who would use something like *that*?' category. Security through who-the-heck-would-think-to-do-that, just like the Dursleys. Very fitting.
On the other hand, if you use the list concept of the Fidelius, you end up with an even scarier possibility- contagion attacks based on which 'permission list' they're on. Get one person who *knows* the Secret, and you could hit *all the others*. Assuming logic, the power of the curse you could use would scale up as the number of people on the list decreased- it'd literally be safer to let more people know than less, which would leave Nara-O tearing his hair out at the concept. The SK would either be as vulnerable as the rest of the Allowed, or immune- it'd depend both on the precise terms of the curse, and whether the charm itself counts the SK's knowledge of the Secret as a function of their role, or as a way of putting him/her on the Allowed list. Cursing 'people who know the location of X' would hit the SK, but cursing 'people who have been told where X is' wouldn't.
Now, here's the real $64,000 question. How do the mechanics of the Fidelius react when the SK's knowledge of the Secret is obliviated? Is it possible to cast the charm, get told the Secret, than make the SK unaware that they know it? Can wiping the mind of the SK destroy any 'pointers'?
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