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Forests and carbon capture
RE: Forests and carbon capture
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(02-22-2019, 06:17 AM)Rajvik Wrote: And that right there is one of the best arguments I have ever heard to disprove the idea that global warming/climate change is man made. Forget the science for a minute and realize the arrogance that it takes to think that 200 years of activity could cause the planet to change that much.

How is it arrogance?  I don't understand this argument at all.  And if it is arrogant, how does that disprove any portion of any other argument?

I've seen it formulated as a religious argument, that God is in charge of the weather and the Sun.  But right there in Genesis 1 God gives us dominion over all the living creatures on Earth.  So I don't understand how we couldn't affect the thing we were specifically put in charge of, or how it would be arrogant to say that we exercised a power granted to us by God.

Quote:Matrix, the science has been argued back and forth to no end and both sides of the argument are effectively sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "I'm not listening to you." That is why I say that. The direct physical consequences you mention all seem to be microcosms, local phenomena that are not the world as a whole. In short, people are making mountains out of mole hills because it is their local environment and their standard of living., they never seem to think about what the changes they are demanding are going to do to everyone else
This is a consequence of the maxim "all politics is local", and not a description of the global Earth-atmosphere system.  Unfortunately most of us in the field have had bad experiences getting people to care about the global state, so we have to make it local enough for them to take action.  It takes a lot more effort to make a human care about the suffering of others.
"Kitto daijoubu da yo." - Sakura Kinomoto
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Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 02-12-2019, 08:40 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-12-2019, 10:57 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by SilverFang01 - 02-12-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-12-2019, 05:02 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-12-2019, 06:11 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-12-2019, 10:27 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-13-2019, 12:34 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-13-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-13-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-13-2019, 03:07 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Bob Schroeck - 02-13-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-14-2019, 07:48 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-14-2019, 08:04 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-15-2019, 04:17 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-15-2019, 05:34 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-15-2019, 04:37 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-15-2019, 06:07 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-15-2019, 05:30 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 02-15-2019, 07:05 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-15-2019, 07:52 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 02-15-2019, 08:09 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-15-2019, 10:40 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 02-16-2019, 10:46 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-17-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-16-2019, 07:37 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-16-2019, 08:47 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by SilverFang01 - 02-16-2019, 08:29 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-16-2019, 09:59 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-18-2019, 05:20 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 02-18-2019, 09:21 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-18-2019, 09:57 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-21-2019, 06:43 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-21-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-21-2019, 12:24 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 02-21-2019, 01:10 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-21-2019, 02:02 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-21-2019, 05:44 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Norgarth - 02-22-2019, 02:20 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-22-2019, 06:17 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 02-22-2019, 06:30 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-22-2019, 01:43 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-24-2019, 10:40 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-22-2019, 07:54 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Epsilon - 02-22-2019, 04:25 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-24-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-22-2019, 12:06 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-24-2019, 04:38 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Dartz - 02-24-2019, 04:50 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-24-2019, 04:53 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Dartz - 02-24-2019, 05:19 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-25-2019, 02:44 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Dartz - 02-25-2019, 03:43 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-25-2019, 05:15 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-25-2019, 06:48 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 02-25-2019, 07:29 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-25-2019, 08:33 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-26-2019, 03:49 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-26-2019, 06:07 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-26-2019, 07:52 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Mamorien - 02-26-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 02-27-2019, 05:36 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Epsilon - 02-27-2019, 08:17 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 02-26-2019, 08:25 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-27-2019, 06:53 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-27-2019, 09:13 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 02-27-2019, 07:14 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Bob Schroeck - 02-27-2019, 12:51 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-27-2019, 06:51 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Bob Schroeck - 02-27-2019, 08:35 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Epsilon - 02-28-2019, 08:01 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 03-09-2019, 09:51 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Epsilon - 03-09-2019, 12:58 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-27-2019, 09:05 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Bob Schroeck - 02-28-2019, 08:26 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-28-2019, 01:48 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Epsilon - 03-01-2019, 08:28 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 02-28-2019, 03:53 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-28-2019, 01:37 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-28-2019, 05:09 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 02-28-2019, 02:52 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Dartz - 02-28-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-28-2019, 04:51 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-28-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 02-28-2019, 11:08 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 02-28-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 02-28-2019, 11:59 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 03-01-2019, 12:03 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by robkelk - 03-01-2019, 09:31 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 03-01-2019, 12:12 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 03-01-2019, 03:32 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Isodecan - 03-01-2019, 10:21 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 03-01-2019, 12:11 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 03-01-2019, 07:20 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 03-01-2019, 10:24 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Dartz - 03-01-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Dartz - 03-01-2019, 03:58 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by hazard - 03-01-2019, 05:22 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Dartz - 03-01-2019, 05:47 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 03-01-2019, 06:00 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 03-01-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 03-06-2019, 04:22 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by classicdrogn - 03-06-2019, 06:02 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 03-06-2019, 08:20 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Dartz - 03-08-2019, 07:09 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Labster - 03-09-2019, 01:46 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Rajvik - 03-09-2019, 08:22 PM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Epsilon - 03-10-2019, 04:35 AM
RE: Forests and carbon capture - by Matrix Dragon - 03-09-2019, 08:41 PM

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