--there's a distinct lack of big, visceral conflict here.
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It would seem that way, wouldn't it? I think I've got a handle on it, though.
[peachy keen. glad to be wrong.]
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HOWEVER, the point I'm making is that Eva was trying to make big philosophical ideas and conflicts a huge part of its story. By having a different ending than the canon one, aren't we just bypassing the essential dialectical (big word i just learned) nature of Eva?
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It depends on the ending. I think what I have in mind will work because I've delved into many of the same sources as Anno did, only without being suicidally depressed at the time, and have found some really intriguing alternatives that are still consistent with those sources. In fact, in some cases, more consistent.
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there was an islamic scholar, whose name i've plum forgotten, that asserted that you can find whatever values you wished to find in the koran. putting it as bald-faced as possible, that seems to mean that the koran and by extension all holy books are basically big rorschach tests. so to say that something is "more consistent" with the source material is . . . an arguable claim. very arguable. as in, there've been wars fought over that claim. which isn't to say that there's going to be a war here. . . but . . . yeah . . .]
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Because we all know that Doug can, does, and often will bring out the big authoritarian voice to just ramrod his views onto people. And since he's being crafted into a mentor position to the eva trinity, would we see the viewpoint for the "other" side or even the idea of an other side personified in someone that isn't horribly repellent? someone that isn't gendo or seele that's trying to say that, 'all everyone knows is pain and isolation and longing and the only way to fix that is to become jello-brand gelatin'
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Doug won't be acting as a counter-viewpoint to this at all, because he knows nothing about it. I'll say this much -- as of my current plans for the story, Third Impact still happens -- and just as in the original, Shinji is handed the choice of what to do with it.
[whether or not the character "consciously" acts as the voice of opposition, a character may thematically be the voice of the counter-viewpoint. if we take gendo as the voice of one viewpoint, unless doug agrees with most everything he does, he is a supporting voice of gendo's viewpoint . . . one could argue. course, there are viewpoints that may not neccessarily conflict but are not the same as that one viewpoint. urm.]
It's the choice he makes -- and the path that takes him to that choice -- that the story is about. All Doug ever does is put him on that path, and that while being almost entirely ignorant of what's going on. This will be a rather different DW story because, while he narrates about half the material as always, Doug is not the main character. He's a supporting character. The Children are the main characters here.
-- Bob
[boswell to shinji's johnson? nick carraway to shinji's jay gatsby?]
-murmur
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It would seem that way, wouldn't it? I think I've got a handle on it, though.
[peachy keen. glad to be wrong.]
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HOWEVER, the point I'm making is that Eva was trying to make big philosophical ideas and conflicts a huge part of its story. By having a different ending than the canon one, aren't we just bypassing the essential dialectical (big word i just learned) nature of Eva?
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It depends on the ending. I think what I have in mind will work because I've delved into many of the same sources as Anno did, only without being suicidally depressed at the time, and have found some really intriguing alternatives that are still consistent with those sources. In fact, in some cases, more consistent.
[...
there was an islamic scholar, whose name i've plum forgotten, that asserted that you can find whatever values you wished to find in the koran. putting it as bald-faced as possible, that seems to mean that the koran and by extension all holy books are basically big rorschach tests. so to say that something is "more consistent" with the source material is . . . an arguable claim. very arguable. as in, there've been wars fought over that claim. which isn't to say that there's going to be a war here. . . but . . . yeah . . .]
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Because we all know that Doug can, does, and often will bring out the big authoritarian voice to just ramrod his views onto people. And since he's being crafted into a mentor position to the eva trinity, would we see the viewpoint for the "other" side or even the idea of an other side personified in someone that isn't horribly repellent? someone that isn't gendo or seele that's trying to say that, 'all everyone knows is pain and isolation and longing and the only way to fix that is to become jello-brand gelatin'
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Doug won't be acting as a counter-viewpoint to this at all, because he knows nothing about it. I'll say this much -- as of my current plans for the story, Third Impact still happens -- and just as in the original, Shinji is handed the choice of what to do with it.
[whether or not the character "consciously" acts as the voice of opposition, a character may thematically be the voice of the counter-viewpoint. if we take gendo as the voice of one viewpoint, unless doug agrees with most everything he does, he is a supporting voice of gendo's viewpoint . . . one could argue. course, there are viewpoints that may not neccessarily conflict but are not the same as that one viewpoint. urm.]
It's the choice he makes -- and the path that takes him to that choice -- that the story is about. All Doug ever does is put him on that path, and that while being almost entirely ignorant of what's going on. This will be a rather different DW story because, while he narrates about half the material as always, Doug is not the main character. He's a supporting character. The Children are the main characters here.
-- Bob
[boswell to shinji's johnson? nick carraway to shinji's jay gatsby?]
-murmur