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The view from outside - In re folks who know about Fenspace and "Don't Get It"
 
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Mark Skarr Wrote:John Carter of Mars was fascinating. The fact that he wished himself to Mars told us a great deal about his character. But, in Fenspace, anyone can “wish” themselves to Mars. And if anyone can do it. There is no reason that everyone who wants to doesn’t.

Your point being... what, precisely? I don't think that anyone here would argue that particular setting element isn't flawed.

Mark Skarr Wrote:Yes, I am a GM (specifically, not a DM. DM’s are, semantically, for D&D, and, I don’t play D&D—it’s too limited and restrictive for my tastes [“NEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD!”]). And you know what: I don’t make blanket rules that say “you can never do this!” I have enough decency to listen to my players and find out what they want to do and why. The important point to take away is that “I listen to my players.” I have an intelligent discussion with them about what they want to do and, if necessary, why it will not fit within the world. I never make blanket statements unless it is important to the game and then I have the decency to explain why.

And, as a player, I’m willing to accept the answer that “it’ll be clear, later” from my GM. If it does not become clear, in the future, I’ll ask for clarification. I hold my GMs to the same level of integrity I hold myself to.

That Guys are the definition of 'unreasonable players,' people who'll demand their half-drow half-dragon half-kitsune dual-wielding ninja be part of a Call of Cthulhu game, or people who openly attack other party members 'because it's in character.' If you allow that kind of nonsense at the table... well, I'm glad I don't game with you to be honest.

Mark Skarr Wrote:And if you’re so worried about people telling stories that you may find offensive . . . why even bother making the information commonly available? Why have Gernsbeck-2? You know that people will write and tell stories that you’re not terribly fond of, yet, by making it commonly available, you have to accept that people will accept those stories as fact. All the protesting in the world will do nothing to prevent it.

Why not? Shit, we all have dozens of projects that never see the light of day. We might as well put it out there and see if somebody likes it. Instead of endlessly debating it here we can boost the signal and see where people take it. I like the idea that even our silly little adventure stories can inspire somebody, even if it's just "well I can write better than those jackoffs."

My problem isn't when people take the established Fenspace material and do something questionable with it. I can't stop that any more than I can stop the tide, and any attempt to do that would make me an even bigger asshole than I already am. So if you really want to use Fenspace in your misogynistic furry-rape fantasy game I can't actually stop you.

But.

My tolerance for those kinds of shenanigans stops when it comes here. That's it. Finito. As long as I have any authority in and over Fenspace these sorts of things will not be welcome. Not in this forum, not in the wiki, not in the IRC. If that makes me a tyrant and a terrible person then I'm okay with that.

Mark Skarr Wrote:The simplest way I can explain the problem with handwavium, so you don’t have any trouble with it Mal:

Yeah you know I was actually going to discuss this since it's kind of interesting, but to hell with it. You've made it clear that you dislike the precepts of the setting, you dislike most of the actual setting elements and you absolutely dislike the management. In fact I'm increasingly confused as to why you're even here in the first place.
Mr. Fnord interdimensional man of mystery

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"I. Drink. Your. NERDRAGE!"
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