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We're probably going to have a couple of phone numbers that people can call if they have concerns.  It doesn't mean we'll always agree with them, but having a real conversation with another human voice always calms issues on wikis in my experience.
Another policy that will change:  Explicitly listing copyrights, and asking editors to submit under our particular license.  Seriously, they don't have you agree to any statement, terms of service, or anything.  The grant of copyright is only implicit in the fact that you edited the site.   A mature website should never have these kind of huge legal holes.
Okay, a quick and unofficial summary of Creative Commons Licenses:

• CC0 (Zero): Essentially create a public domain resource, even in countries that don't have public domain.
• CC-By: Attribution only.  You can add any license on top of this, so long as the attribution condition remains.
• CC-By-NC: Attribution/Non-Commercial: You can relicense the content, but you cannot use the content or its derivatives for private inurement.
• CC-By-SA: Attrib./Share Alike.  You can only relicense the content under a similar or more restrictive license.  You can make money off the content, so long as you also make it available under the CC-By-SA license.
• GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL): Roughly the same terms as CC-By-SA.
  
• CC-By-NC-SA: The most restrictive license, content can only be relicensed under the same.  All derivative works must be noncommercial and must be made available under the same license.

You can always increase the restriction level of CC license on derivative works, but not the other way around until the copyright term expires, unless the content's creator otherwise grants a new permission on the content.
On an unrelated note, I found an old archive of Troper Tales in a usable format.  Should those be added back into the mix?  I don't really want to bring up old debates, but apparently I'm doing it anyway.  Does anyone have a strong opinion on Troper Tales?  Because I sure don't have much of an opinion.

So I don't see that we have a choice - if TVTropes is operating as CC-By-NC-SA, that's what we have to use if we want to use any of their content, correct? Or was their change recent enough that we can be sure the archive copy we have was all done under CC-By-SA?
I kinda like Troper Tales, and it's the one thing on TVTropes I actually have contributed to, but I'm with the others - it can wait.