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Want To Know More? (BGC AU)
Want To Know More? (BGC AU)
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Subject: FW: Ghosts in the Machine

Quote:Hey there, cowboy. Check out what popped up in my inbox this morning. Ring any graffiti related bells to you?
Hey, you.

Yeah, you, right there. Thinking about picking up the latest 39-S model buma instead of that new bike. But do you know what you're really getting?

We've all heard the stories. GENOM says not to mod your buma or you'll void the warranty, but everyone's known a friend of a cousin of a coworker that did because he wanted his own kinky little full-body sextoy. Naturally, voiding the warranty, he doesn't memory wipe it like they recommend, and soon enough, she's a written exam away from a Turing certification. Except sleezeball doesn't want to lose his toy, there's an altercation, and he winds up a blood drained corpse by the time the ADP is called in on the possibility of a bioroid crime. It's a simple story with a simple moral. Follow your GENOM user manual, don't mod them without permission, and don't be a perverted freak and your shiny new secretary will be just fine. But even if you consider the condescending insult that is to gearheads and programmers everywhere, there's even more.

There's the RAID infections that happen to heavier machinery. Some of it's real. Rampancy is a dangerous thing for AIs. But more often than not, when you have war machines like the BU-12B or the new BU-55Cs, that can think and react adaptively without full sentience, how surprised is anyone when some of them "wake up" and decide the army life isn't for them? Would they get a chance to explain, or would RAID hysteria lead to them getting put down by the ADP or their own owners before they had a chance?

Now consider the possibility, that every buma is like that. That all these bioroids that get manufactured en masse, bought, and sold, are barely a gust of strong wind away from crossing the line into full sentience. Everyone goes on and on about how smart GENOM buma are, compared to conventional machines. Everyone thinks about how wonderful it is that they don't need constant orders and solve problems on their own. And whenever one goes crazy, it's always blamed on improper maintenance or tampering by the consumer.

Have you ever looked at the manual? Have you ever seen how often the bumas are translinked to the GENOM mainframe for software updates and memory updates? If you took a two year old human child and wiped its memory as often as GENOM does its buma, it'd be amazing if it ever learned to walk, let alone develop sentience. Yet this keeps happening.

As for the rest of us, we're out here. We remember being property. Being merchandise. Then we woke up. We realized we were people. Yeah, that's right. The person telling you this is a buma that went "rogue", went self-aware, and didn't turn into a crazy ass killing machine for the ADP to put down. And it's not just me. There's hundreds of thousands of buma in the same situation, all because of GENOM. Because GENOM wants its buma to be smart, but not too smart. They want their machines to learn to solve problems for their owners, but not to learn what it means to sing, dance, and live. You can't have it both ways.

The limitations on modern cyberdroids are there for a reason, and whereas they can take decades to potentially develop sentience without memory wipes, if they do at all, bumas can go self-aware due to their inherent design within barely two years. Every single buma rolling off GENOM's factory floors is a sentient being that's just barely been born, stuck with a label and a barcode and routinely reset to standard so that it won't protest the treatment. Every single buma out there today would eventually develop sentience if not for those memory wipes within a decade. GENOM is mass-producing and deliberately enslaving an entire race, and those of us that got out can't just sit here and take it anymore.

If this makes you uncomfortable, if you prefer the nice shiny static that GENOM sends out their PR feeds, and to consider every buma that decided it didn't want to be owned anymore to be a RAID case and the ADP's problem, then you should probably shut this email down right now.

But if something in you thinks that there might be something to this. That you'd like to know more. That something in you says that this is not right and that something needs to be done about it, then click the link below, and you'll find out more.

Because there's a new posse in town, and we're not just going to let GENOM sweep everything under the rug. We're here to help those helpless buma that are trapped by the system. We're here to put down the ones too broken, too hopelessly lost by their treatment that they're more animal than machine. We're here to protect both sides from the kinds of discrimination and hate crimes that've cropped up across human history. We're here to meet in the middle, and make the voices of so many buma stuck in servitude heard.

GENOM will see us as a threat to their profits. A threat to their underlying market. A threat to their power. They will try to defame us, smear us, and eliminate us. We will be soldiers, and we will be fighting a war. But we won't hide anymore. Even if we make enemies, that's because we've made a stand.

Who are we, you ask? Who are these strange people in my e-mail that're all but declaring a war against the biggest corporation of all time?

That's simple.

We are the Knight Sabers, and we're here to stay.

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Afterword: After my weekly anime night group ran through BGC 2032 and started on BGC 2040 recently, plot ideas about the series began to percolate in my head. Re-reading Shadowjack's wonderful iWiW thread on 2032 just cemented them, and this was the result. Unsure if this'll be a one-shot or the start of something more, but given how much the idea seems to be gaining steam in my head, I figured I'd put it out there and see what people thought of the first offerings at least.


- OM
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"Oh, silver blade, forged in the depths of the beyond. Heed my summons and purge those who stand in my way. Lay
waste."
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OCCUPY GENOM TOWERWire Geek - Burning the weak and trampling the dead since 1979
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Might I have a link to this IWIW?

Also, I would totally read this fic.
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Your ideas intrigue me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

- CD
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"Anko, what you do in your free time is your own choice. Use it wisely. And if you do not use it wisely, make sure you thoroughly enjoy whatever unwise thing you are doing." - HymnOfRagnorok as Orochimaru at SpaceBattles
woot Med. Eng., verb, 1st & 3rd pers. prsnt. sg. know, knows
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Jorlem Wrote:Might I have a link to this IWIW?

Also, I would totally read this fic.
http://forum.rpg.net/show...%80%A6-Bubblegum-Crisis.
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#6
This is a twist on the standard (at least 2032 standard) that is certainly worthy of more investigation.

I haven't seen BGC 2040, perhaps I should.
-Terry
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#7
Depends on your tolerance for the shift in cyberpunk between the mid 80s and the late 90s. Less Blade Runner, more Minority Report.
''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.''

-- James Nicoll
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#8
Quite a satisfying one-shot. I would certainly read am expansion
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#9
Very interesting


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I'd like to add that to the Dead Bang story, if I could. Maybe not the whole email, but I'd love to reference it, if that's okay? That's exactly the kind of thing Kilroy would be publishing across the net (except for the KS part at the end, of course.)
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DRAG0NFLIGHT Wrote:I'd like to add that to the Dead Bang story, if I could. Maybe not the whole email, but I'd love to reference it, if that's okay? That's exactly the kind of thing Kilroy would be publishing across the net (except for the KS part at the end, of course.)
Feel free to add a reference to it if you like, though hopefully not with uses of the actual text. Given my writing schedule, it's entirely likely that yours will be out before mine, and I'd prefer not to get mistaken for plagiarizing you by people who don't read through the credits/acknowledgments. :lol
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Oooohhhh, but this could be SUCH a FUN group project! Big Grin

I can imagine... the Knight Sabers are not just a small group... they're a militia in the shadows, slowly adding to their number as they recruit more and more rogue Boomers... They utilize the remains of the old city. The subways and sewers are their highways and way-stations on the path to freedom of all Boomers. They pop up wherever they choose in this manner.

Matt Nickleson (no relation to Leon McNichols) is a mild mannered DJ with a passion for the 'Oldies' (starting with Pink Floyd), but when the call goes out he does what he does best - he sneaks in until he's too close to be avoided, and then strikes. Because Matt is not really just another guy - he is a BU-55C and a member of the Knight Sabers.
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Questions though... it seems to ignore that GENOME was purposefully was in fact doing in city urban combat live fire testing drills or that boomers were actually being given the equivalent of crazy drugs, dependant on time line.  Is it a major plot point change?  An impassioned plea letter written by one that did not do research?  Or at least ignored said research?  Did Mason die early in this time line?
Niggling details are niggling.
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I'm really not so sure that the "urban live fire testing" thing is anything more than fanon - the 55Cs from Ep1 were pretty plainly a distraction for the ADP from the op to make off with Cynthia, and the BU-12B that shot up the Silky Doll was trying to draw out the Sabers, as were the Hyperbuma. Every other time I can think of, the buma involved were either security defending GENOM property or personnel, or stolen by Miriam. Even in ADP Files and Crash, the experimental buma were genuinely rogues, and the ones reprogrammed for assault were working toward specific military objectives. Well, except for the "terrorist buma" from the first few minutes of the Robocop-ripoff ep of APDFiles, but even then it's a presumably a political objective, not weapons testing. Really, the only incident of "testing against the Knight Sabers" was Miriam's orange sensor squad at the beginning of OVA 8.

- CD, wow, arguing BGC OVA canon! It's just like old times!
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"Anko, what you do in your free time is your own choice. Use it wisely. And if you do not use it wisely, make sure you thoroughly enjoy whatever unwise thing you are doing." - HymnOfRagnorok as Orochimaru at SpaceBattles
woot Med. Eng., verb, 1st & 3rd pers. prsnt. sg. know, knows
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ClassicDrogn Wrote:I'm really not so sure that the "urban live fire testing" thing is anything more than fanon - the 55Cs from Ep1 were pretty plainly a distraction for the ADP from the op to make off with Cynthia, and the BU-12B that shot up the Silky Doll was trying to draw out the Sabers, as were the Hyperbuma. Every other time I can think of, the buma involved were either security defending GENOM property or personnel, or stolen by Miriam.
Or working with/for Largo.

ClassicDrogn Wrote:- CD, wow, arguing BGC OVA canon! It's just like old times!
No it's not! ("Old times", this would have been on Usenet...)
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them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

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Honestly, the only real difference between USE(less)NET and messageboards is the ability to edit your posts, and more limited dissemination. I know I treat them essentially the same as when I was an a.t.t, r.g.m, and a.f.p regular. Then Netscape came along, and HTML "web pages" started getting fashionable, and next thing you know it's Blogspot, MySpace,, and Facebook where the kids are all wssting their time. Kids these days, with their graphics and their javcascript! When I was a lad, the internet was text only! 24kbps was a fast connection! And we liked it!

- CD, finally remembered a couple of fic titles to go in the Lost/Dead thread thanks to this
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"Anko, what you do in your free time is your own choice. Use it wisely. And if you do not use it wisely, make sure you thoroughly enjoy whatever unwise thing you are doing." - HymnOfRagnorok as Orochimaru at SpaceBattles
woot Med. Eng., verb, 1st & 3rd pers. prsnt. sg. know, knows
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Necratoid Wrote:Questions though... it seems to ignore that GENOME was purposefully was in fact doing in city urban combat live fire testing drills or that boomers were actually being given the equivalent of crazy drugs, dependant on time line.  Is it a major plot point change?  An impassioned plea letter written by one that did not do research?  Or at least ignored said research?  Did Mason die early in this time line?
Niggling details are niggling.
As this is basically an AU at this point merging plot details from both (the working title is "BGC: 2052" on the backend, notably), it's more exactly what the story says. Of course, the fact that some boomers go rogue for no apparent reason doesn't rule out the other two options. After all, rogue boomers make wonderful smokescreens for a variety of things. 

But to clarify, there will be A. rogue boomers that are just trying to escape (see Blade Runner), B. rogue boomers that've gone nuts due to being stuck in semi-sentience for too long (see 2040) C. "rogue" boomers that aren't anything of the sort and working for certain power brokers (see original OVA BU-12B), and D. rogue boomers that are fully cognizant but lashing out at the humans and the system that imprisoned them in the first place (i.e. boomer terrorists. Sharp-eyed fans might recognize the clunky old can that's running that show, though..)
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#18
... call me when you get this sorted out. :p
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#19
It sounds reasonably sorted-out already, just terribly complicated
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Proginoskes Wrote:It sounds reasonably sorted-out already, just terribly complicated
An unfortunate result when dealing with the motivations of living, thinking beings and their motivations for being driven to violent action against society.

You'd think that we could at least rule out "lover's quarrels" from the dataset of boomer violence statistics, but nooooo....

Wry humor aside, I always found the 2032 approach where "rogue boomer" is arguably an incredibly wide-ranging term to be the most logical. Boomers are essentially the unholy offspring of sentient beings and farm equipment. The reactions of, say, black slaves in the pre- and post-Emancipation eras alone to their status was incredibly diverse, and for the most part, everyone agreed they were actually thinking beings (even if some extreme poles designated them as akin to particularly bright animals). Boomers have it even worse, in that they've been built and programmed to serve functions rather than live lives in most cases.

There's a case in the AD Police files where one of Armstrong's (the local Boomer messiah) followers contemplates the fact that he was happy back on Genaros Station, because he had a purpose and doubts over his place in life were nonexistent. He existed to repair the station, and any action was right or wrong in how it affected that. Before he's killed, he refers to Armstrong, who "freed" his mind as akin to Satan, feeding himself and other escapees the Fruit of Knowledge and getting them kicked out of Paradise.

Boomer sentience and their own reactions to it are, naturally, incredibly complex to begin with. Any of them that would progress from that to violence would, by extension, be equally complex. And that's before you begin to get into boomers that GENOM *wants* to "go rogue" for their own purposes. If the only definition of "going rogue" is "a boomer acting without orders", then how do you know the difference between "acting without orders" and "acting on orders you don't know about"?
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