What the heck?!?!

[Fidoohki]

http://www.worldnetdaily....GE.view&pageId=92288

Okay if they are going to make it manditory why call it 'volunteering'?

[Epsilon]

Wow. That is some grade A scare-mongering there.

You know, when I was in junior high, they made all the students go out and clean up a local highway for a day.

SOCIALIST MILITARY CORPS!

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Epsilon

[Logan Darklighter]

Why are you so surprised? This is what you voted for, after all.

[Epsilon]

Logan Darklighter wrote:

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Why are you so surprised? This is what you voted for, after all.

"We" who?

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Epsilon

[Rev Dark]

For more fun from the World Net Daily, check out this article.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... geId=92747

Joseph Farah demonstrates in the first four lines that he knows nothing of what he writes.

The first full paragraph presents a fundamental misunderstanding of abiogenesis. There is another lie, and a blatant misrepresentation of the work of Dirk
Fuchs. Even a cursory glance at Nature or Paleontology (something Farah is evidently incapable, or more likely, unwilling to do) will demonstrate several
examples of extant octopus fossils.

Then he reaches into his ass, yanks this out, and waves it about, obviously enjoying the bouquet.

No allowance is given for the possibility of worldwide calamities such as the Flood described in detail in the greatest history book man has ever known.
Could such a catastrophe have markedly shifted strata? No, because evolutionary scientists know the Flood is a myth - even though there are accounts of it in
every culture in the world.

Wow. Just wow. The he gets even better.

The one thing to which evolutionary scientists will never open their minds is the possibility that life on earth was created, virtually all at once, and
not that long ago.

Increasingly, that's what the fossilize evidence actually shows - if one is willing to open his mind to the possibility.

Opening your mind to the possibility. Open your mind? You would have to pull your brain out of your head and beat it to paste on the stupid
rock to even consider the possibility.

Farah (Founder of Worldnetdaily) is to Journalistic Integrity and Intellectual Honesty what heaping piles of steaming Wombat Shit are to tasty dairy dessert
treats.

[Fidoohki]

So let me get this straight Rev.. Everyone should disreguard this

guy because he doesn't agree with you on a subject that

has almost nothing to do with the article quoted in the

original post?

[robkelk]

No, we should disregard this guy because he doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

(For one thing, he keeps mentioning how scientists have faith in science. Anybody who's passed Introductory Science 101 in college knows how nonsensical
that is.)
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

[M Fnord]

So let me get this straight Rev.. Everyone should disreguard this
guy because he's a moron?

Fixed your typo there, hoss. And the answer to your question is "yes."
Mr. Fnord interdimensional man of mystery

FenWiki - Your One-Stop Shop for Fenspace Information

"I. Drink. Your. NERDRAGE!"

[Rev Dark]

Fidhooki,

To disagree on this particular subject would be to discuss a particular interpretation of embryology in the context of evo-devo.

To bring up the mythical global flood of noah to explain the fossil record - is not to disagree. It is to proudly display an ignorance so profound that it
is staggering to hear in an adult in this fucking century. In all seriousness, if you see that as merely a disagreement, there is a monumental intellectual
disconnect somewhere.

Do you consider the Global Flood of Noah an adequate explanation for the fossil record? Or the Bible being the "the greatest history book man has ever
known" (That one sentence alone demonstrates that he does not have an understanding of how history is studied, which goes along nicely with his fucking
ignorance of science and the scientific method.)

What he is displaying, in no uncertain terms, is that he is either profoundly, epically, ignorant (unlikely); or deliberately pushing a particular agenda
that places the story of his particular imaginary friend over the hard won discoveries of science. That he communicates that ignorance using the tools
developed by that same science is fucking sickening.

He has demonstrated either a profound dishonesty or a deliberate, cultured, stupidity. Not exactly what I look for when I evaluate journalistic
integrity.

[Evil Midnight Lurker]

I don't disagree with you in the least, Rev, I'm on your side, but you're so consistently refusing to address the content of the original post that
I have to call bullshit anyway. Exactly how is this situation being misrepresented?

--Sam

"You are the wampeter of a globe-spanning karass."

[Rev Dark]

Lurker,

Actually I never addressed the original point at all. I set out to demonstrate in no uncertain terms that the source, the WorldnetDaily, is not in
possession of a whit of Journalistic integrity - given this is the third time in as many day I have seen this level of shite article from them.

As to the orignal article, here. Enjoy.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/i ... ional.html

What is more, just reading the original article Fidhooki posted should have started ringing the 'This is utter shite and deliberate fearmongering'
alarm.

[M Fnord]

First of all, any news or news-like objects coming from World Net Daily should be treated with extreme skepticism. Like Weekly World News-level skepticism. This is not what one would call objective reporting.

Here's the real scoop: Congress votes on & passes HR 1388, also known as the GIVE Act. Here's the summary from OpenCongress:

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act would dramatically increase funding for AmeriCorps and other volunteer programs, including those for seniors and veterans. It also establishes a goal of expanding from 75,000 government-supported volunteers to 250,000, and would increase education funding and establish a summer service program for students, paying $500 (which would be applied to college costs) to high-school and middle-school student who participate.

In its current form, the legislation does not include a mandate requiring service.

(emphasis mine)

World Net Daily, a website devoted to promoting ignorance and paranoia on the right flank of American discourse, naturally claims that this is the beginning of Obama's brownshirt army, forcing good God-fearing Christian boys and girls into THE CAMPS to be indoctrinated as communist atheist Muslims or, worse, infected with Teh Gay. This not being in any way true doesn't really matter. People like Fidoohki and Logan will accept it as true because it validates their standing belief system.

And now you know the Rest of the Story[tm some dead guy].
Mr. Fnord interdimensional man of mystery

FenWiki - Your One-Stop Shop for Fenspace Information

"I. Drink. Your. NERDRAGE!"

[Fidoohki]

M Fnord wrote:

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So let me get this straight Rev.. Everyone should disreguard this


guy because he's a moron?

Fixed your typo there, hoss. And the answer to your question is "yes."

M Fnord? Even if it was meant as a joke that was a scummy thing to do. Please don't 'edit' my words unless I ask for it first?

[Wiregeek]

M Fnord? Even if it was meant as a joke that was a scummy thing to do. Please don't 'edit' my words unless I ask for it first?

wow, OK, speaking of simple ignorance..

the 'Fixed that for you' meme/conceit has been around for quite a while, and was used precisely correctly in this instance.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[Fidoohki]

The thing is the clause to create a committee to explore manditory service was in the original bill that was sent to house

committee. They fortunately dropped it early in deliberation but the fact that it was there at all is worrysome.

[Logan Darklighter]

People like Fidoohki and Logan will accept it as true

I don't think my reply indicated that I thought it was true. In fact I don't believe the tin-foil hat brigade.

You've already proven you're willing to "speak" for others. I don't care for that "meme" at all. Don't do it to me. It
pisses me off. Don't presume you can guess what I'm thinking either.

[M Fnord]

I don't think my reply indicated that I thought it was true. In fact I don't believe the tin-foil hat brigade.

Why are you so surprised? This is what you voted for, after all.

Yep, that sure is a statement of frank disbelief and skepticism towards Fidookhi's claims.
Mr. Fnord interdimensional man of mystery

FenWiki - Your One-Stop Shop for Fenspace Information

"I. Drink. Your. NERDRAGE!"

[Fidoohki]

M Fnord wrote:

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I don't think my reply indicated that I thought it was true. In fact I don't believe the tin-foil hat brigade.

Logan Darklighter's entire post @ 03/27/09, 01:56 PM wrote:

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Why are you so surprised? This is what you voted for, after all.

Yep, that sure is a statement of frank disbelief and skepticism towards Fidookhi's claims.

Sorry M. That sounds more like a sarcastic comment than an statement of approval.

[Fidoohki]

Wiredgeek wrote:

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M Fnord? Even if it was meant as a joke that was a scummy thing to do. Please don't 'edit' my words unless I ask for it first?

wow, OK, speaking of simple ignorance..






the 'Fixed that for you' meme/conceit has been around for quite a while, and was used precisely correctly in this instance.

It's also fraud and it is never used 'correctly' . There is no difference between that 'meme' and altering a chapter of
Drunkards Walk then posting it under the author's name.

[robkelk]

Sorry M. That sounds more like a sarcastic comment than an statement of approval.

There are enough widely-known emoticons available that their absence in Logan's post implied he was completely serious. At least, it did to me.

There is no difference between that 'meme' and altering a chapter of Drunkards Walk then posting it under the author's name.

This one, I agree with you 100%. It seems that many people think it's okay to post something under someone else's name that they know that person wouldn't say - having been the victim of that on Usenet to the extent that the police became involved (and I wasn't the one who called them), I understand just how bad this meme really is. Folks, please don't do this.
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

[Logan Darklighter]

There are enough widely-known emoticons available that their absence in Logan's post implied he was completely serious. At least, it did to me.

You're probably right, I could have put some sort of emoticon in there. But what's a good one for "meh" anyway?

[robkelk]

But what's a good one for "meh" anyway?

:|

Maybe.
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012