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My God!
03-27-2010, 04:07 AM
I was putting up with Firefox...it's clunky and prone to crashing but it was better than IE..barely. Someone mentioned Google Chrome. I just installed it and. by the Almighty...what a difference!
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I have found a plain vanilla install of firefox to be neither clunky or crashy.
but then again, half the joy of it is using plugins to tweak the hell out of websites.
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I've used Google Chrome before and it doesn't parse code quite the same way as Firefox or even IE does. So, I stick with Firefox for now.
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I don't understand this 'clunky and prone to crashing' appelation for Firechicken. I use it exclusively, except for a couple IE specific things, and my only complaint is that it's not multithreaded. I hate waiting for an LJ page to process it's damn script while I have other perfectly good tabs locked up..
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When I crash in Firefox, usually I can attribute it to one source: Flash. If only because I'm usually on YouTube when it happens, which is rather Flash heavy....
(If I could get rid of Flash today, without sacrificing my YouTube fix? I'd do it immediately and never look back.)
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I also find Firefox clunky and slow as hell. I pretty much always use IE to watch videos for that reason. Lots of webpages don't work with Firefox properly either. I should really switch to Chrome but I hate migrating everything/am lazy.
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On Linux, I avoid Flash-on-YouTube as a side effect of avoiding streaming video in general; I invariably download it locally first, using either youtube-dl or cclive. If anyone else would find that a viable approach (unlikely though that seems), they're command-line tools which should work on Windows just as well as on Linux.
youtube-dl is Python-based, and so requires a Python interpreter, but that's readily available from python.com.
cclive is written in C++, and although it has some mildly esoteric dependencies, from the looks of things they're bundled with the Windows version; you should be able to install and have it Just Work. It's not quite as user-friendly as youtube-dl, though, in that it won't pick the best-quality format automatically; you have to specify it by hand. On the flip side, it also works for some sites other than YouTube itself.
Either can be readily found by Googling on its name.
YMMV, but if anyone finds that useful...
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Two things that have greatly improved my browsing experience:
flashblock ( here): stops flash from autorunning. You get a gray box that you can click on to run it.
YouTube + Html5 ( here): get your YouTube fix via html5 video. One less source of flash crashes.
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its full of dogs
03-29-2010, 11:04 AM
I'm probably in the few that doesn't have major Firefox, flash & youtube gripes. I do have the occasional Firefox and Quicktime ones. I tend to also not use IE when the bugs hit the 'Fox, I go Safari instead, as to me that appears more video friendly. Then again, most of my streaming video issues are connection based - server-location and bandwidth restrictions.
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Rod, I've had similar problems with Quicktime in Firefox. With Flash, though, I generally don't have too many issues, though at times I do need to refresh the page because the code somehow got borked. But this usually only happens when I'm having to pull through a congested public Wi-Fi router.
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I too tend to have flash issues, but between no-script and adblock I rarely see flash anyway. of course when I have firefox issues I switch to konqueror and am suddenly greatful for firefox again. I should get back into the habit of using lynx, it's still the best browser out there. If konsole was just a bit more flexible about font resizing i might just do it too, not much call for it in a terminal though, and I don't feel like fixing it myself so I'll stick with firefox for now. For some reason I can't stand chrome as a browser.
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Youtube has always run fine on my Firefox.
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Don't let every application install its own toolbar. That piece of advice has worked WONDERS for me.
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I use Seamonkey, which is sort of the Firefox recreation of the old Netscape suite. I, too, refuse to allow toolbars to install, and despite running with what is arguably a much more complex product than simply Firefox by itself I've never had a problem. I also use Noscript to simplify the webpages I browse, which as others have also noted, helps greatly.
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Scrolling in chrome is what killed it for me. Google chrome scrolls way too far with each mouse wheel click than it should. My secondary browser of choice is either IE or Opera, as those are the others I have installed.
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Out of curiousity, has anyone else noticed that Chrome parses code in a strange way? I.E.: Webpages veiwed under Firefox look very different under Chrome (some features don't even work under Chrome, which is what killed it for me).
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