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Tokyo Manga Ban Having An Impact
Tokyo Manga Ban Having An Impact
#1
http://www.sankakucomplex...o-manga-massacre-begins/
Warning Sankaku Complex is NSFW.

In case you don't want to go there the short story is: every single manga is being shelved in the porno sections of convenience stores now, regardless of content. What's worse, since some stores don't have porno sections those stores have stopped carrying manga altogether.
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#2
You know this is great news if they are really banning everything. because banning everything tends to have the same practical effect as banning nothing, since everything will be equally hard to get and people will make it easy. this will just trivialize the whole 18+ thing into meaninglessness and so it will be ignored by everyone.
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
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#3
Oh yeah. This is gonna go over really well.
Catty, the trouble is that now that ALL of the manga is in the 18+ sections, now only adults can buy it - all the shops are very strict about this as the owners can get into serious trouble for letting kids get anything from that area.
Let me say that again: Now only adults can buy manga.
Honestly, I thought that there was going to be some honest moderation here, but I suppose that whoever is in charge of the panel that decides what is banned to the 18+ section can't be bothered and sends everything there, carte blanche.
I hope that the Manga-ka all gather up and form their own inquisition on the government.  After all, I'm pretty sure if they point enough fingers at the right places they might be able to get some of those old warhorses to change their minds.
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#4
Meh, either way I don't expect it to last. If the ban doesn't work, then it doesn't work. If it works, then it'll be working on such a large scale that it'll actually impact the economy of a reasonably large industry, which will raise an outcry. I suspect that in a match between Pocketbooks and 'Moralality' of that level, Pocketbooks will win.
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#5
blackaeronaut Wrote:Catty, the trouble is that now that ALL of the alcohol is in the 18+ sections, now only adults can buy it - all the shops are very strict about this as the owners can get into serious trouble for letting kids get anything from that area.

FTFY. yet somehow there is still alcohol at the highschools. in general the adult is the one with the money anyway and so will be buying the stuff. Sure kid's can't buy it with their own money but that tends not to be that big an obstacle.

If parents stop caring about the 18+ distinction it will essentially go away. With alcohol there are at least reasons and many adults will strive to enforce it, I doubt that will be the case with the manga ban. s3yang puts it very eloquently.
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
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#6
Going by the comments at Sankaku, most of the commentors think that the typical manga buyer in japan's either going to put off by this or buy something completely different once they hit that section. They're also of the opinon that the average Japanese on the street's a sheep that's not going to contest the new status quo and that most of the manga-ka's are going to leave the industry.

As for the pocketbook side of things going by %[link=http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/09/kadokawa-to-boycott-tokyo-anime-fair-over-ishihara/]this] and http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/1 ... ore-after/][Image: 84615__468x_taf-boycott-before-and-after.jpg]
Kadokawa were getting antsy long before their titles got moved.
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#7
At least we'll still have Pokemon.
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CattyNebulart Wrote:
blackaeronaut Wrote:Catty, the trouble is that now that ALL of the alcohol is in the 18+ sections, now only adults can buy it - all the shops are very strict about this as the owners can get into serious trouble for letting kids get anything from that area.
FTFY. yet somehow there is still alcohol at the highschools. in general the adult is the one with the money anyway and so will be buying the stuff. Sure kid's can't buy it with their own money but that tends not to be that big an obstacle.

If parents stop caring about the 18+ distinction it will essentially go away. With alcohol there are at least reasons and many adults will strive to enforce it, I doubt that will be the case with the manga ban. s3yang puts it very eloquently.
..... What the hell does alcohol have to do with this!?
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#9
She's comparing the 18+ manga to the 21+ (in the US) alcohol , and the fact that kids still get their hands on alcohol somehow.
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#10
A lot of kids here in Japan get allowances - middle schoolers usually get about 3000 yen a month while high schoolers will typically get 6000/month. Other kids here in Japan work part time jobs on school breaks or on the weekends.

In short, there's a lot of kids that have money in their pockets to buy manga from the local convenience stores.

Oh, I'm pretty sure that some of the parents will go ahead and pick up their favorite mangas for them. But parental units here in Japan are usually pretty busy people - with the economy the way it is, it is not unusual to see both parents working - with the Dad on full time and the mother working part time.  There is going to be an impact, and it will be notable.
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#11
This is the sort of store reactions that I fully expect video games would undergo if the California Anti-Game-Violence law is upheld. Some stores will just shove everything into 'adult only' unless it's explicitly for a kid's line rather than try to make those judgment calls... or will just stop carrying games. With the result that the game makers will just start 'purifying' their product lines into blandness to retain market.
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