Linux/Unix remote login/admin from Windows question

[Wiregeek]

Well, I'm feeling kinda dumb.
Just got the hardware pack for a multiple machine upgrade, it's going to eliminate one server and one workstation, combine their duties and deploy them in the garage (where we need the heat, all things considered). The problem with this is, now I have a server machine that I'm going to be playing mp3s, surfing, and viewing youtubes off of...   that other people are going to need to log into, preferably with GUI support, to move files and make changes (media streaming from the machine is easy-peasy). In an all-windows network, I'd use Remote Desktop Connection to get the functionality I want, but this machine is planned as Ubuntu/64 bit.
So far I've looked at X over TCP, which should be a viable solution. I am, however, very interested in other suggestions.
-No view or change access to user logged in at local console
-Multi-user support, seperate logins
-runs on 100m/full duplex ethernet
-clients for Ubuntu, Win 7, Winxp, Mac OS.
Please advise.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[CattyNebulart]

X over TCP. It's meant for that, but it won't do heavy graphics well and is quite sensitive to latency. Since this is a home network it shouldn't be a problem.
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

[Wiregeek]

hallelujah, that's what I was hoping. Cygwin on the Windows side, bam, done.

If my cooler gets in tonight I'll be building my workstation.. if not, I'll be building the fileserver. Either way, I'll post some pics once I have happiness occuring! Thanks!
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[bmull]

You can also use the NoMachine NX Free Edition http://www.nomachine.com/products.php.  It is limited to two users but for a home network that should be fine.

[Wiregeek]

Got the basic build last night. Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit is installed. All hardware drivers are configured and working. Running Unity-2d at the moment, going to pull back to KDE or Gnome, I think.
The drives in the lower left corner, in the second pic, need to be moved. I can't get any real airflow across them like that. Picking up 3x 120mm fans (replacement for front), possibly 4x, tonight. Things are going well.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[CattyNebulart]

Looks neat unfortunately yuku is having issues with the images. Don't we all love yuku?
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

[Wiregeek]

Nope. Loathe it. But Bob's there, so...

Any road, I may have accidently ponified the server. I uprated the fans, since the two front-panel 80mm units were toast, and the 120mm replacements had to go outside the case, since they were too thick..

And they may or may not be LED illuminated clear frame fans in red, green, and blue, in that order. May.

more pictures tomorrow

Samba is up and running, I'm going to make a stab at configurating X over TCP, then stuff it in the garage tomorrow.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[Wiregeek]

Hopefully Yuku doesn't mung this one.

Holesaw + case = happiness. 2x 80mm, 1x120mm (all fans tired and slow, 80mm non-maintenance-able), replaced with 3x120mm illuminated. Added an 80mm to the end of the hard drive rack, blowing directly across the drives. After ~6 hrs of runtime, hard drives were cool to the touch.

Samba is setup and working, Tarkin goes back to the garage tonight. Minecraft works, and the world is ported over. Now I just have to build the ramdisk and backup scripts.. 

EDIT: trying different image adding methods. I may have to break down and find my wiregeek.net login info..




"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[Wiregeek]

Nope, Yuku images are borked. Stupid Yuku.

gonna go get an imageshack account or something, blech.
Edit: OK, that should provide hotness. Going to just link the last two.
Old Front
new hdd fan
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[robkelk]

Samba is setup and working, Tarkin goes back to the garage tonight.

Evacuate? In your moment of triumph?
--
Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

[Sweno]

that's a lot of additional fans...

is your climate unusably hot compared to the rest of the world?

it would seem to me that you could do with quite a few less fans (and thereby less noise) by crafting some plastic baffles to direct air through the case.

the top/side is just removed for pictures right?
-Terry
-----
"so listen up boy, or pornography starring your mother will be the second worst thing to happen to you today"
TF2: Spy

[VladimirTherin]

Just in case this sint what you were already looking at for X11 support under Windows.
XMing works great and has various launcher options, and has hardware acceleration support.
http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/

[Wiregeek]

using FreeNX on the server side, and NoMachine's client, it's working pretty good.

Running into some systemic weirdness, though - minecraft or freenx, there's a hella delay (like 8-10 seconds) on initial connect. once we're logged in and talking, everything's cool, but that initial delay is killin' me.

Samba isn't working for my new machine at all. I think that might be a win7 problem, though..
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[Wiregeek]

I'm calling this a victory.
The new fileserver is in place and has been running since friday. The new workstation went live at about 5pm yesterday, and is stable and running. That machine is a Core i7 2600k w/16gb of ram, a corsair h100 water cooling unit, a 64gb ssd for intel smart storage caching, and a blu-ray drive.and a _three slot_ GeForce 570. Someone call Terrence..
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[VladimirTherin]

Running into some systemic weirdness, though - minecraft or freenx, there's a hella delay (like 8-10 seconds) on initial connect. once we're logged in and talking, everything's cool, but that initial delay is killin' me.

Make sure the machines on both sides have entries for each other in their /etc/hosts ( or equivalent), sometimes initial hangs like this are because the server is trying to do a reverse dns check on the IP and its timing out, since its likely a private IP address.

[Wiregeek]

....what

I mean, no problem, but what? Shouldn't that be covered by the default gateway? It seems contraindicated the the default behavior of any given 192.168.1.xx, where subnet is 255.255.255.0 and default gateway is 192.168.1.1, is to do anything other than 'start pushing packets', when interacting with any other 192.168.1.1...

argh.

will check tonight.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[bmull]

I'm not sure this will help but, if the client is xp, WebClient Service could be the problem:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832161

[VladimirTherin]

To clarify, some services will see an incoming IP and attempt to run a reverse lookup on it for things like TCPWrapper ACL.

It does not skip that on local network ranges. Its so you can uses deny/allow in things like /etc/hosts.allow for local hostnames.

I can't recall if X11 does it by default, but if you are forwarding the connection over SSH, I know that service does.

just add a line in /etc/hosts for the private IP of the other machine with your hostname like this:

192.168.1.5 myworkstation

That way the dns reverse returns quickly instead of hitting whatever your resolvers are and taking a few seconds to time out on a null result. Alternatively if your local LAN uses your router as a DNS proxy some routers will allow you to "inject" results for your local lan.

[Wiregeek]

Going to look into this further.

current statuses:

SAMBA: 75%. Anonymous/Non Workgroup access to fileshares: FIXED. Initial share open delay: UNRESOLVED

UPnP/DLNA: 95%. Mediatomb online as daemon, real-time transcoding working. PS3 client confirmed functional. media library requires sanitization of noncompatible files.

MINECRAFT: 30%. Server is up. Server needs converted to pseudo-daemon, moved to ramdrive, ramdrive support scripts need built.

REMOTE LOGIN: 95%. Initial connect delay: UNRESOLVED.

LOCAL USAGE (Youtube, web, music): 100%

LOCAL FILESYSTEM: 100%. Conversion to multiple-disk RAID planned for .75 years

LOCAL HARDWARE: 100%
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies

[Caligostro]

VNC might work for you. While it doesn't integrate the server apps with whatever client system you want to use but instead give you a Linux desktop in a window. It allows for persistent sessions, everyone can have one and there should be clients for every platform. Plus I imagine that opening a session should be similar from different client systems. Downside: afaik you can not change the virtual screen res on the fly, so while in a session you are stuck with that resolution -- which sucks if you move to a smaller screen ...
Edit: typo

[Wiregeek]

eh, Freenx works good. the initial connect delays for samba and freenx are my only real irritants right now.

gotta get that ramdrive setup though.
"No can brain today. Want cheezeburger."
From NGE: Nobody Dies, by Gregg Landsman
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5579457/1/NGE_Nobody_Dies