This was really me invoking Rule #10, "What the Hell, Hero?". GethN7, you passed. Lulzkiller, your rules lawyering leaves me unimpressed. I had these same kinds of discussions with Lawrence-Prairies over on Miraheze -- yes, you might be allowed to do such things under the rules or the laws, but that doesn't mean that it's not morally wrong.
PROTIP: Don't argue about how you didn't technically break the rules with your friends. You're in House Hufflepuff here, and you're acting like a Slytherin. And you're strengthening the argument that maybe you're not one of us.
I really don't want people to leave. I honestly just want people to stop doing these things, and act like normal human beings. Ideally I'd like us all to live heroically and stylishly, but I'll settle for "doesn't pick fights with random strangers."
I don't have a problem with anyone being an editor on Encyclopædia Dramatica. I do have a problem with people engaging in the worst of their behavior -- doxxing, repeatedly contacting individuals under observation, doing things that could be considered harassment. This is an instance of Kick the Dog, or maybe Kick them While They Are Down. Most of the people being harassed have some kind of mental illness. Since some of also have mental illnesses, maybe we can show a little more empathy?
We're a Content Creation Wiki, and "Creation" is probably the biggest part of that. Creative hobbies should be encouraged, destructive habits should be discouraged. (Deconstructive habits: actually creative.) I do feel like staff should be setting an example in this regard.
-- ∇×V
PROTIP: Don't argue about how you didn't technically break the rules with your friends. You're in House Hufflepuff here, and you're acting like a Slytherin. And you're strengthening the argument that maybe you're not one of us.
I really don't want people to leave. I honestly just want people to stop doing these things, and act like normal human beings. Ideally I'd like us all to live heroically and stylishly, but I'll settle for "doesn't pick fights with random strangers."
I don't have a problem with anyone being an editor on Encyclopædia Dramatica. I do have a problem with people engaging in the worst of their behavior -- doxxing, repeatedly contacting individuals under observation, doing things that could be considered harassment. This is an instance of Kick the Dog, or maybe Kick them While They Are Down. Most of the people being harassed have some kind of mental illness. Since some of also have mental illnesses, maybe we can show a little more empathy?
We're a Content Creation Wiki, and "Creation" is probably the biggest part of that. Creative hobbies should be encouraged, destructive habits should be discouraged. (Deconstructive habits: actually creative.) I do feel like staff should be setting an example in this regard.
I Wrote:I'm wondering if it's appropriate for sanctions to be given to staff for off-wiki behaviorNot one reply on this topic.
robkelk Wrote:Did I do a bad thing when I suggested rule #9, "We do not hide who we are"? Do we have a reason to not identify ourselves as ATT admins when discussing tropes at sites other than ATT?Personally I'm kind of indifferent on this rule, as I'm not sure it matters that much, its unenforcible, and it's what I was doing already.
Bob Schroeck Wrote:And by the time I see this, it's all shaken out.Not yet, I'm afraid.
-- ∇×V