RE: "It's always too soon to talk about gun control"
11-09-2017, 12:12 PM (This post was last modified: 11-09-2017, 12:16 PM by Black Aeronaut.)
11-09-2017, 12:12 PM (This post was last modified: 11-09-2017, 12:16 PM by Black Aeronaut.)
Hazard, what planet are you from?
First of all, do you honestly expect me to take time away from my job to organize something like that? Are you fucking stoned? That bullshit is for people that either have too much time on their hands, or they got nothing left to lose. I'm working 10 to 12 hour overnight shifts and I'm just barely digging myself out of a hole. I don't even make $25k/year here, and that's busting my ass working anywhere between 50 to 60 hours a week!
As for why most Americans won't hand over their assault rifles or everything else? You've got to be kidding, right?
The original intent of the 2nd Amendment was so that everyone could defend themselves from their own government if needs be. What you are asking of us is to remove and essential final check on the power of the Federal Government. Don't argue about the semantics of "What are a bunch of jon does going to do against trained soldiers?" That's not how it works. Ideally the Military is supposed to recognize where the Federal government has gone too far and either stand aside or even assist in a revolution.
That is not going to be given up. Not ever.
As for your belief that a better mental health system won't severely curb this issue? I think you're wrong.
No matter what their beliefs, no matter how they rationalized their actions, every one of these people were completely raving mad. Make mental health a priority and you will catch the vast majority of these people before they can ever do any lasting harm.
ETA:
Rob, what that study fails to show is HOW that money is spent on mental health. I'm pretty sure if you compared the system in use here in the USA to that of other countries, you'd probably see a very different picture.
First of all, do you honestly expect me to take time away from my job to organize something like that? Are you fucking stoned? That bullshit is for people that either have too much time on their hands, or they got nothing left to lose. I'm working 10 to 12 hour overnight shifts and I'm just barely digging myself out of a hole. I don't even make $25k/year here, and that's busting my ass working anywhere between 50 to 60 hours a week!
As for why most Americans won't hand over their assault rifles or everything else? You've got to be kidding, right?
The original intent of the 2nd Amendment was so that everyone could defend themselves from their own government if needs be. What you are asking of us is to remove and essential final check on the power of the Federal Government. Don't argue about the semantics of "What are a bunch of jon does going to do against trained soldiers?" That's not how it works. Ideally the Military is supposed to recognize where the Federal government has gone too far and either stand aside or even assist in a revolution.
That is not going to be given up. Not ever.
As for your belief that a better mental health system won't severely curb this issue? I think you're wrong.
No matter what their beliefs, no matter how they rationalized their actions, every one of these people were completely raving mad. Make mental health a priority and you will catch the vast majority of these people before they can ever do any lasting harm.
ETA:
Rob, what that study fails to show is HOW that money is spent on mental health. I'm pretty sure if you compared the system in use here in the USA to that of other countries, you'd probably see a very different picture.