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[Rajvik]

And while we're asking questions, how the hell is "socialism" communism? Even Marx thought they were different things.

That one is easy.  Their parents grew up hearing nothing but COMMIES COMMIES COMMIES during the Cold War and that anything that smacked of "Socialism" was the Enemy.  McCarthyism at its worse.

I think Walt Kelley, cartoonist of the infamous Pogo, said it best when he misquoted Oliver Perry: "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

Thank you BA, that was half my answer to that, so i'll give you the other half, Socialism inevitably leads to revolution, at that point it is a toss up whether it will try to go capitalist, or communist, with the odds leaning towards communism.

BA, to answer your questions

True capitalism stays the hell out of the public services sector. And this is pretty much what the Democrats want - for the corporations to get the hell out of the public services sector.

I agree with the first half but point out that the second half is not completely correct, they want the corps out, but they want the government to control the corps. That is socialism/communism aka central planning which the soviets showed does not work. Also, remember how "business" became a problem in government in the first place, the federal government unionized.

So, how the hell is it "socialism" when we want a federally-funded public schools option for higher education?

How the hell is it "socialism" when we want affordable healthcare without insurance companies jacking up the prices?

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because all this public funding seems to do is encourage the colleges to raise their prices on tuition to the point that all you can afford to do is take the government's school which at the lower level education has done nothing but dumb down the population by teaching to the lowest common denominator. Same for healthcare or have you not noticed that since the passing of the Affordable Care Act that the cost of healthcare has done nothing but go up while your choices get fewer and fewer. 

How the hell is it "socialism" when we want fair living wages? 

its not, the socialism there is how you go about it. Here is where we are going to seriously disagree as we have in previous threads. You want to be able to afford to live on your wages then CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDER to immigration! stop the cheap immigrant labor from coming in and then you can bargain, collectively or individually, for better wages without the boss being able to go "No, i'll just hire some immigrant who doesn't know any better or will work under the table because they are illegal." Forcing companies to raise their wages artificially has always forced inflation higher and done nothing but fuck everyone over[/quote]