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COVID-19 & US healthcare system - thread relapse
RE: COVID-19 & US healthcare system - thread relapse
#51
(04-20-2020, 11:43 AM)Star Ranger4 Wrote: With Trump facing crisis, US warns rivals not to seek advantage
https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB12VdjS?m=en-us&ocid=News

Real smart.  Just chum the water you are already in.

Folks, "rivals seek advantage" is a natural consequence of the current administration's policy of reducing its own influence around the globe. It's far too late to complain about that now.
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Rob Kelk

Sticks and stones can break your bones,
But words can break your heart.
- unknown
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#52
If anything, telling rivals to back off indicates weakness they can exploit. You wouldn't tell them that unless you are trying to cover for a weakness.
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#53
The scary part is I can easily see Trump launching a war at the slightest provication in an attempt to distract from his leadership failures at home. And as I've heard, Presidental popularity rates tend to rise during wars and he's desperately trying to make himself look better before the next election
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#54
Why do you think he tries to paint this crisis as a war and himself as a wartime president?
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#55
Being governed by the worst people in the world turns out to be very bad.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2010025

While the Trump administration denies states essential testing resources and undermines their social distancing plans, it is active in both stealing medical supplies and bidding up their price.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/...s-ppe.html
“We can never undo what we have done. We can never go back in time. We write history with our decisions and our actions. But we also write history with our responses to those actions. We can leave the pain and the damage in our wake, unattended, or we can do the work of acknowledging and fixing, to whatever extent possible, the harm that we have caused.”

— On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World by Danya Ruttenberg
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#56
You know that quote about not mistaking malice for stupidity?

Yeah.

While there's plenty of stupidity to go around here, it's actually just the symptom and not the disease.
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#57
(04-20-2020, 02:54 PM)Black Aeronaut Wrote: You know that quote about not mistaking malice for stupidity?

Yeah.

While there's plenty of stupidity to go around here, it's actually just the symptom and not the disease.

I have maintained for a while that sufficiently advanced stupidity
(a) results in conditions indistinguishable from the results of villainy;
(b) requires the support of villainy to sustain itself.
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#58
(04-20-2020, 02:47 PM)SilverFang01 Wrote: Being governed by the worst people in the world turns out to be very bad.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2010025

Speaking of the worst government in the world, there are a lot of rumours that Kim Jong Un is on his deathbed right now.  As usual for this thing, reports from the People's Republic of Best Korea are notoriously unreliable.
"Kitto daijoubu da yo." - Sakura Kinomoto
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#59
And he's now signing an executive order stopping all immigration. A move that won't influence the spread of COVID at all, but will make foreign people suffer, so his cultists will love it.
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#60
Well, there's been no Covid19 news from North Korea at all, maybe he caught it?
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#61
North Korea is notoriously an information black hole. Anything could happen, good or bad, and they'd try to keep a lid on it.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if North Korea took a massive population hit if COVID-19 got into their population.
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#62
(04-20-2020, 11:46 PM)Matrix Dragon Wrote: And he's now signing an executive order stopping all immigration. A move that won't influence the spread of COVID at all, but will make foreign people suffer, so his cultists will love it.

Never mind Trump's tweets. Keep an eye on his plan for reopening the economy
--
Rob Kelk

Sticks and stones can break your bones,
But words can break your heart.
- unknown
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#63
Georgia Governor orders state re-opened on Friday.

Yes. This Friday.

Despite all of the medical advice to the contrary.
--
Rob Kelk

Sticks and stones can break your bones,
But words can break your heart.
- unknown
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#64
How many folks are actually behind these 'massive' protests online?

Quote:Somewhere in the middle of all this there remains a deathly microscopic virus that affects everyone no matter their color, creed, sexual preferences, religious conviction or political affiliations.

But that doesn’t matter. Because with everyone hooked on outrage, including the so-called lamestream media outlets and true patriots alike, and with everyone needing their next fix, there is no time to take stock. The out-of-control roundabout of bullshit has too much momentum.

This is a pattern that has taken over online discourse in America. And even though in reality it amounts to a very small number of people carrying out entirely inconsequential actions, it continues to bleed through to real life.
--
Rob Kelk

Sticks and stones can break your bones,
But words can break your heart.
- unknown
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#65
(04-21-2020, 09:31 AM)robkelk Wrote: Georgia Governor orders state re-opened on Friday.

Yes. This Friday.

Despite all of the medical advice to the contrary.

The ones most likely to follow this instruction are the President's followers. Most of whom are highly vulnerable to any epidemic, never mind one that hits the old and the poor harder.

Do not be surprised if by early May Georgia's medical system buckles under the impact of a new wave of COVID-19 patients, at a time effective treatments are still not available, and other states still have no spare capacity as at best they are recovering at the tail end of their own epidemic and cannot assist. In fact, if the epidemic grows quickly enough in Georgia, I wouldn't be surprised if neighbouring states closed down major traffic routes out of Georgia to protect themselves.
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#66
Like I was about to post, it'll be -- among other things, most of them bad -- a self-correcting problem. It's amazing that these Republican governors are either so short-sighted (or ignorant) that they don't realize that it's their own most fervent supporters that they're putting at greatest risk.
-- Bob

I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh, Clark Kent, Mary Sue, DJ Croft, Skysaber.  I have been 
called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the sun grows dim and cold....
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#67
(04-21-2020, 09:31 AM)robkelk Wrote: Georgia Governor orders state re-opened on Friday.

Yes. This Friday.

Despite all of the medical advice to the contrary.

Well, nice of them to volunteer as (bad) example/petrie dish Rolleyes 

Saw a facebook post with a pic of a group of Protesters standing in a cluster labeled "This may be the first civil war where the rebel eliminated themselves" or something like that.

EDIT: and almost forgot to link this
Trump’s Two Horrifying Plans for Dealing With the Coronavirus
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...sJ5JCrXp1s
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#68
Well, this is concerning.
Recovered, almost: China's early patients unable to shed coronavirus

Quote:Chinese doctors in Wuhan, where the virus first emerged in December, say a growing number of cases in which people recover from the virus, but continue to test positive without showing symptoms, is one of their biggest challenges as the country moves into a new phase of its containment battle.

Those patients all tested negative for the virus at some point after recovering, but then tested positive again, some up to 70 days later, the doctors said. Many have done so over 50-60 days.

The prospect of people remaining positive for the virus, and therefore potentially infectious, is of international concern, as many countries seek to end lockdowns and resume economic activity as the spread of the virus slows. Currently, the globally recommended isolation period after exposure is 14 days.

There are too many unknowns with this virus yet.
“We can never undo what we have done. We can never go back in time. We write history with our decisions and our actions. But we also write history with our responses to those actions. We can leave the pain and the damage in our wake, unattended, or we can do the work of acknowledging and fixing, to whatever extent possible, the harm that we have caused.”

— On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World by Danya Ruttenberg
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#69
CNN has an analysis of how Trump and Fox News have strangely fallen silent about hydroxychloroquine.

Trump will soon be making noises of "hydroxychloroquine? Never heard of it"
“We can never undo what we have done. We can never go back in time. We write history with our decisions and our actions. But we also write history with our responses to those actions. We can leave the pain and the damage in our wake, unattended, or we can do the work of acknowledging and fixing, to whatever extent possible, the harm that we have caused.”

— On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World by Danya Ruttenberg
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#70
(04-22-2020, 11:57 AM)SilverFang01 Wrote: Trump will soon be making noises of "hydroxychloroquine? Never heard of it"

It may've brought covfefe for him once or twice.  Or was that Stephanie Grisham?

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Big Brother is watching you ... and damn, you are so bloody BORING.
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#71
I went on the internet, and I found this.

[Image: 6mQsaAi.png]

I love the smell of rotaries in the morning. You know one time, I got to work early, before the rush hour. I walked through the empty carpark, I didn't see one bloody Prius or Golf. And that smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole carpark, smelled like.... ....speed.

One day they're going to ban them.
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#72
This thing really is a nightmare: A mysterious blood-clotting complication is killing coronavirus patients
“We can never undo what we have done. We can never go back in time. We write history with our decisions and our actions. But we also write history with our responses to those actions. We can leave the pain and the damage in our wake, unattended, or we can do the work of acknowledging and fixing, to whatever extent possible, the harm that we have caused.”

— On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World by Danya Ruttenberg
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#73
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“We can never undo what we have done. We can never go back in time. We write history with our decisions and our actions. But we also write history with our responses to those actions. We can leave the pain and the damage in our wake, unattended, or we can do the work of acknowledging and fixing, to whatever extent possible, the harm that we have caused.”

— On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World by Danya Ruttenberg
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#74
How the search for a vaccine is going, and what is involved with that, you may want to check out https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/ar...-prospects, a recent post by Derek Lowe on his blog In The Pipeline, which mainly covers pharmaceutical chemistry. The article gives an overview of the vaccines currently being researched, as well as what the different kinds of vaccine are and how they work.
“We can never undo what we have done. We can never go back in time. We write history with our decisions and our actions. But we also write history with our responses to those actions. We can leave the pain and the damage in our wake, unattended, or we can do the work of acknowledging and fixing, to whatever extent possible, the harm that we have caused.”

— On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World by Danya Ruttenberg
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#75
He didn’t get with the program, he got fired.

Top vaccine expert says he was fired for resisting Trump on hydroxychloroquine

Quote: A senior US government doctor who worked on the search for a coronavirus vaccine has claimed he was fired after resisting Donald Trump’s push to use the unproven drug hydroxychloroquine as a treatment, the New York Times reported on Wednesday.
“We can never undo what we have done. We can never go back in time. We write history with our decisions and our actions. But we also write history with our responses to those actions. We can leave the pain and the damage in our wake, unattended, or we can do the work of acknowledging and fixing, to whatever extent possible, the harm that we have caused.”

— On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World by Danya Ruttenberg


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