RE: [OOC][RFC] Need to get something cleared up RE: multiple instances of characters
03-18-2022, 04:23 AM
03-18-2022, 04:23 AM
Obviously random stuff in their purse will change. Artoria hasn't turned pages since that time the knights put a lazy susan on the Round Table.
Because causality is so weird, we can of course have multiple things going on at once, and get some duplicates if people really want them.
So the current plan I had for Policeman-san Jerry (Sora Naegino's #1 fan) is that there would be a guy named Jerry who works for the LAPD in the Metacontinuity Base Universe. At the same time as the circus tent appears, he gets the memories of the other Jerry: being a police officer in Cape Mery, going to the stage, and having another girlfriend. It seems like a dream that's too detailed, until he notices the stage that has suddenly appeared in Venice that everyone else thinks has always been there.
So probably a little traumatic, but not an existential level. It's like if Kagome and Kikyou merged... they're still the same person with the same goals and love interest. Or a better example might be Ellen in El Goonish Shive, who became more herself after getting a second lifetime's worth of memories. Definitely less weird than DS9 Trill joining, or one of those snake-in-the-heads that Sam Carter had. Or Chris Angel and the Paradoxes, for that matter (good name for a band).
For 90% of people, they won't even know something has changed. Like a lot in the Metacontinuity, causality is malleable, and people think "hey, that circus tent has always been at the end of the pier" when it hasn't from the perspective an outside observer. A merged character might just get a few extra memories that are congruent with their other memories. Some memories will be incongruent enough for people to notice, like Jerry. Hopefully we will catch most of them, though I imagine a few of them will be like canon Jack O'Neill having memories of a owning a barber shop and never telling people for years ("I found it relaxing."). Anyone having beyond a few incongruent pieces will be handled specially by the goddesses and and the managers... (cue organ music) or someone else.
This assumes each character has an immortal soul. We know they do, because Belldandy says so, and she doesn't lie. The portion of each person's soul flowing into each alternate universe is the same soul -- their memories are not who they are, but only how they lived. On a metaphysical level, no one is getting killed by merging, just having an their true being expressed in a slightly different form. Also the goddesses are going to fix this and send people back... right?
And when the other shoe drops and they restart the other universes but the Metacontinuity chugs along its own path, it really isn't killing anyone at all, but making new people, or new expressions of their souls. One of the two reasons Arc 3 Tomo keeps putting herself in danger is because she knows that her other self will live a good and peaceful life, so it's okay if she dies for love and justice. (The other reason is because she's an idiot.)
All that said I am really not sure what will happen to Andy Weir. Or Stephen King for that matter. Or anything Tsubasa.
The character model is -- surprise -- not the person. People look like people, not like animu waifus. The fiction is not a perfect representation either, so there can be straight up discrepancies with "canon" and reality (unsurprisingly mostly of a "fix fic" form).
In regard to the original topic, if we're keeping Drunkard's Walk compatibility, based on Chapter 4, I'm thinking Usagi is in some way all the Usagis when she needs to be.
Because causality is so weird, we can of course have multiple things going on at once, and get some duplicates if people really want them.
So the current plan I had for Policeman-san Jerry (Sora Naegino's #1 fan) is that there would be a guy named Jerry who works for the LAPD in the Metacontinuity Base Universe. At the same time as the circus tent appears, he gets the memories of the other Jerry: being a police officer in Cape Mery, going to the stage, and having another girlfriend. It seems like a dream that's too detailed, until he notices the stage that has suddenly appeared in Venice that everyone else thinks has always been there.
So probably a little traumatic, but not an existential level. It's like if Kagome and Kikyou merged... they're still the same person with the same goals and love interest. Or a better example might be Ellen in El Goonish Shive, who became more herself after getting a second lifetime's worth of memories. Definitely less weird than DS9 Trill joining, or one of those snake-in-the-heads that Sam Carter had. Or Chris Angel and the Paradoxes, for that matter (good name for a band).
For 90% of people, they won't even know something has changed. Like a lot in the Metacontinuity, causality is malleable, and people think "hey, that circus tent has always been at the end of the pier" when it hasn't from the perspective an outside observer. A merged character might just get a few extra memories that are congruent with their other memories. Some memories will be incongruent enough for people to notice, like Jerry. Hopefully we will catch most of them, though I imagine a few of them will be like canon Jack O'Neill having memories of a owning a barber shop and never telling people for years ("I found it relaxing."). Anyone having beyond a few incongruent pieces will be handled specially by the goddesses and and the managers... (cue organ music) or someone else.
This assumes each character has an immortal soul. We know they do, because Belldandy says so, and she doesn't lie. The portion of each person's soul flowing into each alternate universe is the same soul -- their memories are not who they are, but only how they lived. On a metaphysical level, no one is getting killed by merging, just having an their true being expressed in a slightly different form. Also the goddesses are going to fix this and send people back... right?
And when the other shoe drops and they restart the other universes but the Metacontinuity chugs along its own path, it really isn't killing anyone at all, but making new people, or new expressions of their souls. One of the two reasons Arc 3 Tomo keeps putting herself in danger is because she knows that her other self will live a good and peaceful life, so it's okay if she dies for love and justice. (The other reason is because she's an idiot.)
All that said I am really not sure what will happen to Andy Weir. Or Stephen King for that matter. Or anything Tsubasa.
The character model is -- surprise -- not the person. People look like people, not like animu waifus. The fiction is not a perfect representation either, so there can be straight up discrepancies with "canon" and reality (unsurprisingly mostly of a "fix fic" form).
In regard to the original topic, if we're keeping Drunkard's Walk compatibility, based on Chapter 4, I'm thinking Usagi is in some way all the Usagis when she needs to be.
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