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Non-Anime Steps
Re: Brainstorming some ideas for Non-Anime Steps
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Subliming comes from the same memepool, but the singularity is rather less mystical.
At its heart is the commonplace observation that progress is accelerating. Once, half a million years could go by, and leave proto-human culture unchanged. In ancient times a thousand years could pass without any technological inovation. Even the industrial revolution stretched over generations.
Now change comes at breakneck speed -from the Wright brothers to Apollo within a single lifetime - and it's not slowing down.
Where will it stop? Will it stop, short of the limits of the physically posssible? (and they are wider than most people dream) Technology indistinguishable from magic may be the least we can expect.
Any technological progress puts an horizon on our predictions since forecasters can't account for technologies not yet invented. As the pace of change quickens, that horizon comes ever closer, and its impact grows greater.
If the limits of predictability are five hundred years out, no one need care; if that horizon lies fifty years out life will change radically over your lifetime; if it's five years out most things change beyond recognition every five years, making long term planning difficult.
If the technology curve goes near vertical, the horizon can fall to minutes or less, as much change as in the entire history of mankind, every single second, and still accelerating.
That would be a singularity.
If you want a plausible mechanism, consider computers. We have a good idea now how good a computer the human brain is, how many megabytes and megahertz we'd need to equal it. The best supercomputers today work out to be ant-equivalent, so the current idiocy of computers is hardly suprising.
A simple extrapolation shows that in 30-40 years we will have computers comparable with the human brain. A little later, most of the computing power on the planet will be artificial. Use that computing power to work out how to make better computers and you have a positive feedback loop, which takes off once most of the computing power isn't in human brains.
This brief sketch does skates over a number of weaknesses, but its an intriguing idea, which has made for some good SF.
For a better account, go to the source -
www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~pho...-sing.html
Googling on Vinge will reveal a lot more on the subject.
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Non-Anime Steps - by Bob Schroeck - 01-29-2004, 04:55 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Logan Darklighter - 01-29-2004, 08:38 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Scrambler - 01-29-2004, 08:46 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by jpub - 01-29-2004, 09:46 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Bob Schroeck - 01-29-2004, 09:55 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Disruptor - 01-30-2004, 02:38 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by ClassicDrogn - 01-30-2004, 03:38 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Kokuten - 01-30-2004, 08:07 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Zojojojo - 01-30-2004, 05:08 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Bob Schroeck - 01-30-2004, 05:08 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Bob Schroeck - 01-30-2004, 05:14 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by jpub - 01-30-2004, 09:11 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by jpub - 01-30-2004, 09:15 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by The Wanderer - 01-30-2004, 11:56 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Disruptor - 01-31-2004, 12:57 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Offsides - 01-31-2004, 06:09 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Bob Schroeck - 01-31-2004, 07:19 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by The Wanderer - 01-31-2004, 08:11 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by ClassicDrogn - 01-31-2004, 09:50 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Offsides - 02-01-2004, 12:26 AM
Back on Topic - by Foxboy - 02-01-2004, 07:28 AM
Re: Back on Topic - by Bob Schroeck - 02-01-2004, 09:01 PM
Re: Back on Topic - by Ebony - 02-01-2004, 11:04 PM
Re: Back on Topic - by Kokuten - 02-01-2004, 11:37 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by jpub - 02-02-2004, 01:11 AM
Re: Back on Topic - by jpub - 02-02-2004, 01:12 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by The Wanderer - 02-02-2004, 03:09 AM
Re: Back on Topic - by Bob Schroeck - 02-02-2004, 07:00 AM
Re: Back on Topic - by Bob Schroeck - 02-02-2004, 07:03 AM
Re: Back on Topic - by Ebony - 02-02-2004, 09:00 AM
Re: Back on Topic - by Kokuten - 02-02-2004, 09:55 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Logan Darklighter - 02-02-2004, 10:07 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Morgan Champion - 02-02-2004, 12:43 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Disruptor - 02-02-2004, 02:31 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by The Wanderer - 02-02-2004, 09:06 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by jpub - 02-02-2004, 09:27 PM
Lensmen - by drakensis - 02-03-2004, 03:34 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Logan Darklighter - 02-03-2004, 03:42 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by ClassicDrogn - 02-03-2004, 08:17 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Duane Peters - 02-03-2004, 06:28 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Bob Schroeck - 02-03-2004, 10:08 PM
Non-Anime steps - by Logan Darklighter - 02-03-2004, 11:08 PM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by jpub - 02-03-2004, 11:27 PM
Define the Universe, Give Three Examples - by Guest - 02-04-2004, 01:19 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Bob Schroeck - 02-04-2004, 06:04 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Bob Schroeck - 02-04-2004, 06:06 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Kokuten - 02-04-2004, 07:20 AM
Re: Non-Anime steps - by Offsides - 02-04-2004, 07:29 AM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Kokuten - 02-04-2004, 07:50 AM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Bob Schroeck - 02-04-2004, 04:56 PM
Another odd thought - by Logan Darklighter - 02-04-2004, 09:04 PM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by WengFook - 02-04-2004, 09:07 PM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Valles - 02-04-2004, 09:37 PM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Bob Schroeck - 02-04-2004, 10:01 PM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Valles - 02-05-2004, 12:47 AM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Bob Schroeck - 02-05-2004, 03:07 AM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Kokuten - 02-05-2004, 07:53 AM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Bob Schroeck - 02-05-2004, 08:04 AM
Hmmm. - by Foxboy - 02-05-2004, 09:17 AM
Re: Hmmm. - by Bob Schroeck - 02-05-2004, 04:50 PM
Re: Hmmm. - by Skitz Warriors Alpha - 02-05-2004, 10:25 PM
Re: Hmmm. - by Disruptor - 02-06-2004, 01:50 AM
Re: Hmmm. - by Bob Schroeck - 02-06-2004, 02:35 AM
Re: Hmmm. - by Bob Schroeck - 02-06-2004, 02:38 AM
Re: Hmmm. - by jpub - 02-06-2004, 02:52 AM
Re: Hmmm. - by Bob Schroeck - 02-06-2004, 06:36 AM
Re: Hmmm. - by Disruptor - 02-06-2004, 06:37 AM
Re: Hmmm. - by Ebony - 02-06-2004, 07:14 AM
Re: Hmmm. - by Bob Schroeck - 02-06-2004, 05:00 PM
Twiki - by Guest - 02-07-2004, 09:09 AM
Re: Twiki - by Bob Schroeck - 02-07-2004, 07:34 PM
Doom - by Disruptor - 06-30-2005, 09:13 AM
Re: Doom - by Rod.H - 06-30-2005, 09:34 AM
Re: Doom - by Bob Schroeck - 06-30-2005, 02:11 PM
Re: Doom - by Sukael - 06-30-2005, 04:51 PM
Re: Doom - by Bob Schroeck - 06-30-2005, 07:02 PM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Disruptor - 06-30-2005, 11:16 PM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Bob Schroeck - 07-01-2005, 02:31 PM
Re: Non-Anime Steps - by Disruptor - 07-01-2005, 09:34 PM
Re: Brainstorming some ideas for Non-Anime Steps - by Custos Sophiae - 07-11-2005, 11:10 PM
Re: Brainstorming some ideas for Non-Anime Steps - by WengFook - 07-12-2005, 11:04 PM
Re: Brainstorming some ideas for Non-Anime Steps - by Custos Sophiae - 07-13-2005, 12:47 AM
Addams Family - by Foxboy - 07-15-2005, 08:26 AM
Re: Addams Family - by ClassicDrogn - 07-15-2005, 08:33 AM
TV Schedule - by Foxboy - 07-15-2005, 06:44 PM
Re: TV Schedule - by Bob Schroeck - 07-15-2005, 07:15 PM
Re: TV Schedule - by Foxboy - 07-16-2005, 06:29 AM
Re: TV Schedule - by Bob Schroeck - 07-18-2005, 02:03 PM
Re: TV Schedule - by Sukael - 07-28-2005, 06:31 AM
Re: TV Schedule - by Bob Schroeck - 07-28-2005, 02:23 PM
Quantum Leap - by Foxboy - 07-28-2005, 06:11 PM
Re: Quantum Leap - by Bob Schroeck - 07-29-2005, 01:40 PM
Re: Quantum Leap - by robkelk - 07-29-2005, 02:58 PM
Re: Quantum Leap - by Soutern Cross - 07-30-2005, 01:17 AM
Re: Quantum Leap - by robkelk - 07-30-2005, 05:30 PM
Re: Quantum Leap - by Bob Schroeck - 08-01-2005, 02:16 PM
Re: Quantum Leap - by itsune9tl - 08-01-2005, 06:30 PM
Re: Quantum Leap - by Bob Schroeck - 08-01-2005, 06:59 PM
Quantum Leap - by Foxboy - 08-01-2005, 10:25 PM
Re: Quantum Leap - by Bob Schroeck - 08-02-2005, 02:01 PM
Re: Quantum Leap - by DHBirr - 08-14-2005, 04:34 AM
Re: Quantum Leap - by Foxboy - 08-14-2005, 04:35 PM
Re: Re: Quantum Leap - by VladimirTherin - 08-17-2005, 11:58 AM
Muppets - by LynnInDenver - 08-21-2005, 11:45 PM
Re: Muppets - by robkelk - 08-22-2005, 12:31 AM
Re: Muppets - by Bob Schroeck - 08-22-2005, 06:54 PM
Re: Muppets - by itsune9tl - 08-22-2005, 11:36 PM
Greg The Bunny - by Bob Schroeck - 08-23-2005, 02:03 PM
re: Greg the Bunny - by Foxboy - 08-23-2005, 05:34 PM
Re: re: Greg the Bunny - by Bob Schroeck - 08-23-2005, 06:52 PM

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