This has been annoying me for a few days and I feel the need to complain about it... this seemed like the proper area. Resently Bob's sig has been:
'Reactionaries'.
Its like saying that all Lawful people are Good and all Chaotic people are Evil. I use the D&D alignment system as I see the political spectrum in a similar grid. You have the Left moderate Right on the resources side and the Conservative moderate Liberal on the change side. When I say Conservative/Liberal, in this case, I am not speaking of the modern American terms.
What I mean is that the Conservatives are the Reactionaries, their goal is to keep things the same. Maintaining the Statis Quo is their driving force. What the Statis quo actually consists of is irrelivant in this respect. Liberals are the Revolutionaries, they want things to change. In this case it doesn't matter what it is they want to change... just that it changes from what it currently is.
What I mean here by Left and Right here is defined on an axis of resource distribution. In a pure case of being all the way to the Left all resources are distributed equally to all involved parties. This is reguardless of personall needs or participation of gathering resources, a baby and a 600 pound man get the same exact portions of the resources (this means food and clothes and shelter). All the way to the right means that one indivisual has all the resources. No one else gets anything, reguardless of if there is one person or one billion people in the equasion.
If we apply this to the above quote we get some bizzarre situations. Radicals (Left Liberals) would be a scenario that has everyone owning equal portions of everything and the portions being recalculated everytime even the smallest portion of a resource is used up. (Which would be the part about change yesterday... except that would give them a consistant deadline and be against their alignment.)
If we apply it to the second half of the quote we get pure Reactionary (Right Conservative)... which translates as one indivisual with all the resources forever... everyone and everything and must keep its resorces to itself and protect it from that which it doesn't own... Which explains what is wrong with Friend Computer... after all it unilaterally owns everything and everyone and must protect its property from nonexistant/already eliminated indivisuals that own things it doesn't. This is why it actually makes sense that Freind Computer can own everything and be so against Commies. It just eliminated everyone to the Left of it and kept going until only those it owned as property are left remaining. Then it just kept picking thing that it owned as property... like knowledge.
Just to complete the extremes... pure Right Liberal would be mean one indivisual owns everything and everyone... but who that indivisual is is constantly changing, so only way to legally use any resource is to use it in whatever time period it is used for the ownship cycle. As this requires incredibly small time periods (the smallest known to the system) and everyone is effectively criminal and legal at once and this system collapses in time paradox or at least the legalistic equivalent thereof.
Pure Left Conservative would mean that every participant in the system gets an equal share of the resources and that once they are distrubed that's it. Unless new resources are added the system stagnates to death by design. Any attempt to add anyone new to the system makes the system have to change things around and therefore destroys the system.
Anyway, the quote that started this is logically wrong and seems to be so badly thought out that I felt a need to complain about it. Is there something I'm missing? Is this an overly subtile/unnoted remark I'm missing as a quote to be mocked? Did Bob suddenly deside to pick a bizzarrely political hack quote for some reason?
Quote:The reason this annoys me so much is it is uncharicteristally stupid of Bob. This is because it makes/relies on a false analogy... that the Left is only made of 'Radicals' and the Right of 'Reactionaries' or that the only 'Radicals' are on the Left and the only 'Reactionaries' are on the Right or that the Extreme Left is the embodiment of 'Radicals' and the Extreme Right is the embodiment of
One of the primary differences between the Left and the Right is their attitude toward the Future. The Radical wants the Future to have gotten here yesterday. The Reactionary wants the Future quietly shot and the corpse buried where no one can find it.
'Reactionaries'.
Its like saying that all Lawful people are Good and all Chaotic people are Evil. I use the D&D alignment system as I see the political spectrum in a similar grid. You have the Left moderate Right on the resources side and the Conservative moderate Liberal on the change side. When I say Conservative/Liberal, in this case, I am not speaking of the modern American terms.
What I mean is that the Conservatives are the Reactionaries, their goal is to keep things the same. Maintaining the Statis Quo is their driving force. What the Statis quo actually consists of is irrelivant in this respect. Liberals are the Revolutionaries, they want things to change. In this case it doesn't matter what it is they want to change... just that it changes from what it currently is.
What I mean here by Left and Right here is defined on an axis of resource distribution. In a pure case of being all the way to the Left all resources are distributed equally to all involved parties. This is reguardless of personall needs or participation of gathering resources, a baby and a 600 pound man get the same exact portions of the resources (this means food and clothes and shelter). All the way to the right means that one indivisual has all the resources. No one else gets anything, reguardless of if there is one person or one billion people in the equasion.
If we apply this to the above quote we get some bizzarre situations. Radicals (Left Liberals) would be a scenario that has everyone owning equal portions of everything and the portions being recalculated everytime even the smallest portion of a resource is used up. (Which would be the part about change yesterday... except that would give them a consistant deadline and be against their alignment.)
If we apply it to the second half of the quote we get pure Reactionary (Right Conservative)... which translates as one indivisual with all the resources forever... everyone and everything and must keep its resorces to itself and protect it from that which it doesn't own... Which explains what is wrong with Friend Computer... after all it unilaterally owns everything and everyone and must protect its property from nonexistant/already eliminated indivisuals that own things it doesn't. This is why it actually makes sense that Freind Computer can own everything and be so against Commies. It just eliminated everyone to the Left of it and kept going until only those it owned as property are left remaining. Then it just kept picking thing that it owned as property... like knowledge.
Just to complete the extremes... pure Right Liberal would be mean one indivisual owns everything and everyone... but who that indivisual is is constantly changing, so only way to legally use any resource is to use it in whatever time period it is used for the ownship cycle. As this requires incredibly small time periods (the smallest known to the system) and everyone is effectively criminal and legal at once and this system collapses in time paradox or at least the legalistic equivalent thereof.
Pure Left Conservative would mean that every participant in the system gets an equal share of the resources and that once they are distrubed that's it. Unless new resources are added the system stagnates to death by design. Any attempt to add anyone new to the system makes the system have to change things around and therefore destroys the system.
Anyway, the quote that started this is logically wrong and seems to be so badly thought out that I felt a need to complain about it. Is there something I'm missing? Is this an overly subtile/unnoted remark I'm missing as a quote to be mocked? Did Bob suddenly deside to pick a bizzarrely political hack quote for some reason?
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