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Ding Dong the Ding Dong's dead
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If your constants (logical or mathematical as it were) do not have an observable reality, you can logically prove damn near anything.
Math and logic both rely on Axioms, things which are assumed to be true. What you do in math/logic generally is prooving that certain things are true or not for any world where those axioms are true.
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The foremost being there is no proof and no apparent means of proof.
As I said before, I'm a computer scientist, which is really much closer to a mathematician with some engineering thrown in than a scientist. If it is mathematically proven it's true, it might just not be true for our world (meaning we picked the wrong axioms somewhere, assuming of course we wanted to proove something about our world.)
I also recomend you read the FAQ ( www.simulation-argument.com/faq.html ) since it does adress some of your objections.
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I do like how you could substitute post-human or simulator into any phrase currently containing the word god. We truly cannot know the mind of the simulator. In simulator we trust. But for the grace of simulator go I.
Right because a high fidelity simulation about galaxy clumping really would care that much about the sentient beings it's accidentaly simulating. At this point you are confusing the simulation hypothesis with traditional religions.
Ak, quick definition of terms:
Simulation argument: That at least one of three disjuncts is true, (we live in a simulation, we will go extinct soon, or we won't have any interest in running simulations when we have the computational power to do so.)
Simulation Hypothesis: We live in a simulation.
It's important to keep the two seperate, because the simulation argument is almost certainly correct. The Simulation hypothesis however is unproven. I belive in the simulation hypothesis, but Bostrom (the one who wrote the simulation argument) does not.
I think if we wanted to discuss this more we should start a new thread. Politic threads always seem to veer so far of course.
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
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Ding Dong the Ding Dong's dead - by Rev Dark - 05-16-2007, 03:00 PM
Re: Ding Dong the Ding Dong's dead - by Fidoohki - 05-18-2007, 06:18 AM
A moderate proposal - by Rev Dark - 05-18-2007, 02:35 PM
Re: A moderate proposal - by M Fnord - 05-18-2007, 05:57 PM
Re: A moderate proposal - by Bob Schroeck - 05-18-2007, 07:03 PM
Re: A moderate proposal - by Kokuten - 05-18-2007, 07:19 PM
Re: A moderate proposal - by Fidoohki - 05-18-2007, 07:54 PM
Re: A moderate proposal - by Fidoohki - 05-18-2007, 08:05 PM
The Yeast of your worries - by Rev Dark - 05-18-2007, 08:37 PM
Re: The Yeast of your worries - by Kokuten - 05-18-2007, 10:06 PM
Re: The Yeast of your worries - by Kokuten - 05-18-2007, 10:17 PM
Re: The Yeast of your worries - by Fidoohki - 05-18-2007, 11:14 PM
Re: The Yeast of your worries - by Morganite - 05-18-2007, 11:53 PM
Re: The Yeast of your worries - by Kokuten - 05-19-2007, 12:26 AM
Re: The Yeast of your worries - by Fidoohki - 05-19-2007, 01:30 AM
Re: The Yeast of your worries - by Bob Schroeck - 05-19-2007, 02:03 AM
Keeping It Simple (For) Stupid - by Rev Dark - 05-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Re: Keeping It Simple (For) Stupid - by CattyNebulart - 05-20-2007, 01:19 AM
Re: Keeping It Simple (For) Stupid - by Kokuten - 05-20-2007, 06:23 AM
Here we go again... - by Morganite - 05-20-2007, 06:50 AM
Various replies - by Rev Dark - 05-20-2007, 11:29 AM
This is getting way of topic, but... - by CattyNebulart - 05-20-2007, 01:54 PM
Re: Keeping It Simple (For) Stupid - by Fidoohki - 05-20-2007, 02:40 PM
Re: Keeping It Simple (For) Stupid - by CattyNebulart - 05-20-2007, 03:58 PM
Re: Keeping It Simple (For) Stupid - by Fidoohki - 05-20-2007, 05:14 PM
Re: Keeping It Simple (For) Stupid - by Kokuten - 05-20-2007, 05:56 PM
Re: Various replies - by Bob Schroeck - 05-20-2007, 07:08 PM
Re: Keeping It Simple (For) Stupid - by Fidoohki - 05-20-2007, 07:24 PM
Reply - by Rev Dark - 05-22-2007, 11:47 AM
Re: Reply - by Kokuten - 05-22-2007, 04:44 PM
Re: Reply - by Bob Schroeck - 05-22-2007, 07:16 PM
Re: Reply - by DHBirr - 05-22-2007, 11:41 PM
Re: Reply - by Kokuten - 05-22-2007, 11:53 PM
Re: Reply - by Kokuten - 05-27-2007, 08:07 PM
Re: Reply - by Fidoohki - 05-27-2007, 09:31 PM
Re: Reply - by Kokuten - 05-28-2007, 09:11 AM
Re: Reply - by Fidoohki - 05-28-2007, 02:16 PM
Re: Reply - by CattyNebulart - 05-28-2007, 07:01 PM
Re: Reply - by Logan Darklighter - 05-28-2007, 09:06 PM

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