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Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real
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Ah, you mean experts like Michael Mann (Mann et al. 1998 & the 2001 UN report), who's work used models so biased (ref McIntyre et al. 2003, 2005) as to create a warming trend even when fed random input?
I'm not at true believer, I'm just holding out for more information. A new study by Richard T. Barber shows that the ocean's ability to pull carbon from the atmosphere is probably understated. It is also my understanding that many of the atmospheric models used stop below the upper atmosphere because we're not sure what happens up there, that NASA article I linked to illustrates this.
The first IPCC First Assessment Report gave the equation Delta F = 6.3*ln(C/Co) so DeltaF=6.3*ln(377/280)=1.874Watts/m2. That should be measurable in the rate of cooling during the evening, yes? Compare the cooling rates from recording stations that have been in place since at least early last century with what their current rates are now. That would be quite a telling argument. I remember seeing someone's for Antarctica and we are cooling much faster today than we were fifty years ago.
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Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 02-10-2007, 11:29 PM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Kokuten - 02-10-2007, 11:34 PM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Kokuten - 02-11-2007, 06:20 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Kokuten - 02-11-2007, 08:28 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Kokuten - 02-12-2007, 02:50 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Kokuten - 02-12-2007, 07:59 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by CattyNebulart - 02-16-2007, 03:10 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 02-16-2007, 07:58 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Kokuten - 02-16-2007, 08:28 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Kokuten - 02-17-2007, 01:10 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 02-18-2007, 09:43 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Jeap - 02-18-2007, 09:53 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by rmthorn - 02-23-2007, 03:02 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Jeap - 02-23-2007, 05:49 AM
follow the money - by CattyNebulart - 02-25-2007, 10:53 PM
Re: follow the money - by ECSNorway - 02-26-2007, 05:00 AM
Re: follow the money - by Ayiekie - 02-26-2007, 09:20 AM
Re: follow the money - by Jeap - 02-26-2007, 05:51 PM
Re: follow the money - by Logan Darklighter - 02-26-2007, 07:31 PM
Re: follow the money - by Ayiekie - 02-26-2007, 08:19 PM
Re: follow the money - by ECSNorway - 02-26-2007, 09:27 PM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 02-27-2007, 12:50 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 02-27-2007, 07:58 AM
consensus? - by hmelton - 03-02-2007, 11:42 PM
mars as a model of Earth - by hmelton - 03-03-2007, 08:12 PM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 03-03-2007, 11:41 PM
Re: mars as a model of Earth - by M Fnord - 03-04-2007, 12:04 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 03-04-2007, 12:14 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 03-04-2007, 05:51 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Jeap - 03-04-2007, 08:25 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Jeap - 03-04-2007, 04:17 PM
consensus? - by hmelton - 03-05-2007, 08:41 AM
Re: Mars warming - by Jeap - 03-05-2007, 06:27 PM
Re: Mars warming - by Ayiekie - 03-05-2007, 06:43 PM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Jeap - 03-06-2007, 04:12 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 03-06-2007, 05:35 AM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 03-06-2007, 07:58 AM
Science - by Rev Dark - 03-06-2007, 04:35 PM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Jeap - 03-06-2007, 05:09 PM
Jeap's article - by Rev Dark - 03-06-2007, 05:41 PM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Ayiekie - 03-06-2007, 08:35 PM
Re: Exxon-Mobil Admits Global Warming Is Real - by Necratoid - 03-20-2007, 02:29 AM
Read a book. Read a bunch of books. - by Rev Dark - 03-20-2007, 02:36 PM
Junk Science in Hard Cover is still Junk Science. - by Necratoid - 03-20-2007, 04:08 PM
Science! You're soaking in it. - by Rev Dark - 03-20-2007, 05:42 PM
Re: Science! You're soaking in it. - by M Fnord - 03-20-2007, 05:55 PM
Our Science isn't Peer Review - by hmelton - 03-20-2007, 06:33 PM
Re: Science! You're soaking in it. - by Morganite - 03-20-2007, 06:49 PM
Re: Science! You're soaking in it. - by Valles - 03-20-2007, 07:03 PM
Re: Our Science isn't Peer Review - by Ayiekie - 03-20-2007, 07:45 PM
Re: Science! You're soaking in it. - by Epsilon - 03-20-2007, 08:24 PM
Re: Our Science isn't Peer Review - by Necratoid - 03-20-2007, 08:46 PM
Re: Our Science isn't Peer Review - by Epsilon - 03-20-2007, 09:01 PM
Re: Science! You're soaking in it. - by ECSNorway - 03-20-2007, 10:35 PM
Re: Consensus - by Jeap - 03-20-2007, 10:54 PM
Re: Consensus - by Epsilon - 03-20-2007, 11:11 PM
Re: Consensus - by Necratoid - 03-21-2007, 12:05 AM
Re: Consensus - by Logan Darklighter - 03-21-2007, 12:06 AM
Re: Consensus - by M Fnord - 03-21-2007, 12:20 AM
Re: Consensus - by Necratoid - 03-21-2007, 12:35 AM
Re: Consensus - by M Fnord - 03-21-2007, 12:51 AM
Re: Consensus - by Epsilon - 03-21-2007, 02:54 AM
Re: Consensus - by Jeap - 03-21-2007, 04:22 AM
Replies to Consensus - by hmelton - 03-21-2007, 09:30 AM
Re: Replies to Consensus - by Ayiekie - 03-21-2007, 09:47 AM
Re: Replies to Consensus - by Epsilon - 03-21-2007, 03:00 PM
Re: Proof that we still need a sense of smell... - by Jeap - 03-22-2007, 02:15 AM
Smells like... - by Rev Dark - 03-22-2007, 02:25 PM
Re: Smells like... - by ECSNorway - 03-22-2007, 05:07 PM
Ummm. - by Rev Dark - 03-22-2007, 05:53 PM
Replies Ayiekie & Epsilon - by hmelton - 03-23-2007, 08:36 AM
Re: Replies Ayiekie & Epsilon - by rmthorn - 03-23-2007, 12:36 PM
Re: Replies Ayiekie & Epsilon - by ECSNorway - 03-23-2007, 06:03 PM
Both hands and a flashlight - by Rev Dark - 03-23-2007, 07:21 PM
Late Reply to rmThorn's Question - by hmelton - 03-27-2007, 08:03 PM

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