Hello Catty
I didn't Quote your good argument's back, but here are my counter arguments and some of my reasoning for my positions.
If these prisoners were American citizens(by whatever method) then I'd agree with you about the amendments being broken.
However I do not believe non-citizens of the United States should get the full benefit of our constitution.
If you believe otherwise that is your right and I respect it, but I cannot agree with that viewpoint especially for a enemy that wishes to destroy said constitution.
The Geneva Convention use to have(and might still have) specific statements about what actions were required on the part of the soldiers and nation for him and his nation to gain the benefits of that agreement or treaty.
Spies or soldiers hiding as civilians in the civilian population by looking like civilians were specificaly outlined as not gaining most of the benefits of the treaty.
The rights of these spies were severely limited and they lost most of the protections offered by the geneva convention.
In other words the geneva convention only protects those enemy soldiers now prisoners that acted within the conventions requirements to gain those rights.
I do not believe most of our prisonors and thier supporting quasi-governments have acted in such a manner and indeed have openly professed methods and openly commited actions that have removed them from the full application of the Geneva convention.
At it's heart the idea set forth in the Geneva convention was establish to gain fair and equal treatment for prisoners on both sides of a issue.
By no account have American prisoners been treated decently or fairly by the terroristic extremist moslems they are fighting.
In fact the Extremist have been quite GLEEFUL in demonstrating and presenting evidence of thier NON-GENEVA method of treating prisoners.
At it's core the Geneva convention main idea says fair treatment of our prisoners will mean fair treatment of your prisoners.
The Geneva Convention has been BROKEN countless times by the extremist moslems.
To me our court seems very stupid to try and force our military to follow a treaty that has been broken at every opputunity by the enemy.
Our court seems to have forgotten that a treaty is only a treaty if both parties honor it.
howard melton
God bless
I didn't Quote your good argument's back, but here are my counter arguments and some of my reasoning for my positions.
If these prisoners were American citizens(by whatever method) then I'd agree with you about the amendments being broken.
However I do not believe non-citizens of the United States should get the full benefit of our constitution.
If you believe otherwise that is your right and I respect it, but I cannot agree with that viewpoint especially for a enemy that wishes to destroy said constitution.
The Geneva Convention use to have(and might still have) specific statements about what actions were required on the part of the soldiers and nation for him and his nation to gain the benefits of that agreement or treaty.
Spies or soldiers hiding as civilians in the civilian population by looking like civilians were specificaly outlined as not gaining most of the benefits of the treaty.
The rights of these spies were severely limited and they lost most of the protections offered by the geneva convention.
In other words the geneva convention only protects those enemy soldiers now prisoners that acted within the conventions requirements to gain those rights.
I do not believe most of our prisonors and thier supporting quasi-governments have acted in such a manner and indeed have openly professed methods and openly commited actions that have removed them from the full application of the Geneva convention.
At it's heart the idea set forth in the Geneva convention was establish to gain fair and equal treatment for prisoners on both sides of a issue.
By no account have American prisoners been treated decently or fairly by the terroristic extremist moslems they are fighting.
In fact the Extremist have been quite GLEEFUL in demonstrating and presenting evidence of thier NON-GENEVA method of treating prisoners.
At it's core the Geneva convention main idea says fair treatment of our prisoners will mean fair treatment of your prisoners.
The Geneva Convention has been BROKEN countless times by the extremist moslems.
To me our court seems very stupid to try and force our military to follow a treaty that has been broken at every opputunity by the enemy.
Our court seems to have forgotten that a treaty is only a treaty if both parties honor it.
howard melton
God bless