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The Law of Unintended Consequences
Geneva conventions
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I must admit ignorance of the exact text of the geneva conventions, but I'm fairly sure the Supreme Court has read up on them.
But I do know something of the aplicable laws and customs in the US and attempted to clarify why the Supreme Court does have the authority it's claiming.

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However I do not believe non-citizens of the United States should get the full benefit of our constitution.
This is an old argument the constituion (specifically the 4'th amendment) says 'persons', not 'citizens'. This has created quite a bit of argument between the lawyers, and I don't feel qualified to give a definite answer, but my gut feeling is it applies.
The register article lined elsewhere matches my reasoning quite closely:
www.theregister.co.uk/200...page2.html
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If you believe otherwise that is your right and I respect it, but I cannot agree with that viewpoint especially for a enemy that wishes to destroy said constitution.
So if the goverment could somehow remove citizenship from you they could legaly do whatever they want with you?
There have been 759 source prisoners in Guantanamo and only 10 of them have been charged with a crime. The release of 100 or so is planned because they are innocent. That is too big of a miss rate to cassualy trample the rights of the people there.
People who trade their Freedom for Saftey don't deserve either.
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Not under Geneva convention - by hmelton - 07-03-2006, 05:57 AM
at least one mistake - by Logan Darklighter - 07-03-2006, 06:30 AM
At least one mistake - by hmelton - 07-03-2006, 08:15 AM
Geneva conventions - by Logan Darklighter - 07-03-2006, 05:26 PM
Geneva convention - by hmelton - 07-04-2006, 01:24 AM
The Rangers Reach - by hmelton - 07-04-2006, 01:37 AM
that's what's happening - by Logan Darklighter - 07-04-2006, 06:04 AM
Re: POW's not criminals and China's attack Censor - by CattyNebulart - 07-06-2006, 03:10 PM
POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Necratoid - 07-15-2006, 06:12 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Ayiekie - 07-15-2006, 08:40 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Necratoid - 07-16-2006, 09:01 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Ayiekie - 07-18-2006, 07:59 PM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Necratoid - 07-20-2006, 01:20 AM
Re: POW's not criminals, They are prisons of War. - by Ayiekie - 07-20-2006, 02:59 AM
*** - by Foxboy - 07-20-2006, 07:39 AM
Re: *** - by robkelk - 07-20-2006, 02:32 PM
re: Godwin - by Foxboy - 07-20-2006, 02:40 PM
... - by Morganite - 07-20-2006, 04:38 PM
Re: *** - by Ayiekie - 07-20-2006, 05:23 PM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-20-2006, 05:49 PM
Re: ... - by Morganite - 07-20-2006, 06:29 PM
*** - by Foxboy - 07-20-2006, 06:39 PM
Re: *** - by CattyNebulart - 07-20-2006, 09:07 PM
Re: *** - by Epsilon - 07-20-2006, 11:15 PM
Re: *** - by Valles - 07-20-2006, 11:43 PM
Re: ... - by robkelk - 07-21-2006, 12:29 AM
Re: *** - by Epsilon - 07-21-2006, 01:30 AM
Re: ... - by Morganite - 07-21-2006, 02:24 AM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-21-2006, 06:23 AM
Re: ... - by Custos Sophiae - 07-21-2006, 05:05 PM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-21-2006, 05:54 PM
Re: ... - by Custos Sophiae - 07-21-2006, 07:39 PM
Re: ... - by Epsilon - 07-21-2006, 09:28 PM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-21-2006, 09:43 PM
Re: ... - by Necratoid - 07-22-2006, 05:24 AM
Re: ... - by Logan Darklighter - 07-22-2006, 05:49 AM
Re: ... - by Ayiekie - 07-22-2006, 06:47 AM
Re: ... - by Epsilon - 07-22-2006, 07:59 AM
Re: ... - by Necratoid - 07-24-2006, 12:31 AM
Okay, people.... - by Bob Schroeck - 07-24-2006, 02:21 PM

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